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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
August 25 2013 14:42 GMT
#4421
On August 25 2013 23:40 JP Dayne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 23:39 dmnum wrote:
is jaedong playing this badly or does meta favours terran right now?


I say bomber is simply outplaying jd


Big time. Jaedong didn't need to engage when Bomber was below his fourth base. Bomber setup the perfect spread but it didn't threaten Jaedong's fourth, but Jaedong attacked anyway. That decided the game.
Emuking
Profile Joined June 2012
United States144 Posts
August 25 2013 14:42 GMT
#4422
Bomber pushed through to the 4th with 2-2, he doesnt even need 3-3 to accomplish his push's goal. Feels like 3-3 for terran is too easy to get, zerg cant get 3-3 ground + muta upgrades + adrenaline for soooo long to match that 3-3... and we just saw terran doesnt need 3-3 to win.
When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breath, then you'll be successful.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 25 2013 14:42 GMT
#4423
On August 25 2013 23:42 Tobblish wrote:
Makes me so happy watching Jaedong struggle this much and refuses to make Infestors


Infestors are terrible. There is a reason the best ZvT players almost never make them unless they have no resources left.
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Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 25 2013 14:42 GMT
#4424
On August 25 2013 22:48 bo1b wrote:
Poll: Jaedongs going to win this tournament?

No (32)
 
100%

32 total votes

Your vote: Jaedongs going to win this tournament?

(Vote): No





I'm just leaving this here . . .
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
August 25 2013 14:42 GMT
#4425
On August 25 2013 23:41 Disarmed wrote:
good lord.

this is perfection. PERFECTION.

the best TvZ you can possibly play. ZERO mistakes.

better than Inno's TvZ imho.

No? not even better than polt.
JD is BONJWA!
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 25 2013 14:42 GMT
#4426
All in JD... Now is the time.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4427
On August 25 2013 23:41 massivez wrote:
Terran outmacroes zerg on 3 bases against 4. Sure...


Terran bases aren't the same thing as zerg bases.

Come on, it's 2013, this game has been out for 3 years, this should be understood by everyone.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4428
On August 25 2013 23:42 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 23:41 GWdeathscythe wrote:
How the hell.. this guy just build tons of marines and throw them in line in your face.

and mines...dont forget about the mines...


And the Infestors


WAIT WHAT?!
The curse is real
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4429
StarCraft WCS Finals : 16 players enter the field, then a Terran win 4-0.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4430
dem salty zerg tears
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4431
(Z)Jaedong vs (T)Bomber
0-2
Map: Neo Planet S


Jaedong spawns in the top right
Bomber spawns in the bottom left
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4432
On August 25 2013 23:41 RiZu wrote:
Bomber is setting up his widow mines way better than yesterday... just what had happened in a day? Damn Jaedong you can still do it... don't get 0-4 please. 4-2 or 4-3 is fine. GOGO TYRANT!


Scarlett has better ZvT than Jaedong
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4433
JaeKong
Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4434
On August 25 2013 23:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 23:41 sh02hp0869 wrote:
On August 25 2013 23:39 BackSideAttack wrote:
lol jaedong is so bad at tvz now


He is not bad its just David Kim and his ideas of balance


Exactly, Jaedong is playing perfectly and there's nothing more he can do - zero mistakes and still loses

wait

Bomber is playing well, Jaedong less so - don't blame it on balance


Jaedong was destroying Bomber until 3/3 finished, then he just died because Zerg isn't allowed to START 3/3 until hive is complete, a full minute AFTER 3/3 finishes for Terran.

Not a balance issue at all...
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4435
On August 25 2013 23:41 mango_destroyer wrote:
Bombers 47%- ish TvZ winrate too much for Jaedong to handle rofl.

To be fair that's mostly games against Symbol, Life pre-slump, and RorO pre-slump... lol
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4436
As always. Fighting..
The Bomber boy
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4437
On August 25 2013 23:39 Bisu-Fan wrote:
How is Zerg supposed to win in this situation? So confused... It seems he had nice hits with his banelings, but literally terran has infinite marines/medi/mines


Infestors, broodlords, anything that doesn't instantly die to marines works. Mutalisks are great but once the terran gets a critical number of marines and splits them enough that your banelings can't blow them all up, you can't engage with mutas anymore and will lose every battle.
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4438
literally no reason not to spam roach bane all-in vs terran.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4439
On August 25 2013 23:42 Weavel wrote:
It's sick how little credit these zerg whiners give to bomber.


Whiners gonna whine. Just laugh it off.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7321 Posts
August 25 2013 14:43 GMT
#4440
Does this count as stagnation in the matchup? Just like, constant biomine?

I want PvZ.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
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