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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4461
On August 25 2013 23:43 Hall0wed wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:42 Weavel wrote:
It's sick how little credit these zerg whiners give to bomber.


Whiners gonna whine. Just laugh it off.
I try but everytime zerg is losing in a final thread turns into balance whining. Somethings never change.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5225 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4462
Finally we get a proxy rax.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4463
On August 25 2013 23:42 GWdeathscythe wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:41 Disarmed wrote:
good lord.

this is perfection. PERFECTION.

the best TvZ you can possibly play. ZERO mistakes.

better than Inno's TvZ imho.

No? not even better than polt.

they all look the same nowadays .. i cant even distinguish the best terran players in tvz anymore
this is a quote
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4464
Oh god I can't take this constant balance whining anymore. It may be a small bit imba but its not that bad!
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4465
--- Nuked ---
WhurreOdu
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1739 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4466
On August 25 2013 23:43 Heartland wrote:
How happy is Wintex right now?


He is probably dancing naked on the table.
Fut am Bam
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 14:45:24
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4467
i hope power rank will be fair in september.. last time it was awful how they underestimated bomber just because of his past and at the same time they gave credits to worse players because of their playing past.. bomber is no1 power rank.. i would like to see jaedong winning but zerg can't win against same level terran in bo5 or bo7.. there are some chances in bo3
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 14:45:23
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4468
God of zergs, please, give us back our ultimate weapon so JD could crush the terrans !

[image loading]
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4469
On August 25 2013 23:42 PoP wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:40 Zealously wrote:
On August 25 2013 23:39 Bisu-Fan wrote:
How is Zerg supposed to win in this situation? So confused... It seems he had nice hits with his banelings, but literally terran has infinite marines/medi/mines


Bomber's macro is something else though


It really is. Still impresses me more than any other Terran out there, except maybe Flash (about even).

word, i think taeja has impressed me just as much last year, but bomber has been like this forever
Sc2 always got your back
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4470
uh, here is where the bomber law starts
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4471
On August 25 2013 23:43 Zambrah wrote:
Does this count as stagnation in the matchup? Just like, constant biomine?

I want PvZ.

And pvz is not stagnant?And also the most boring matchup
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Gudge
Profile Joined June 2013
542 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4472
ch3353?
づ。◕‿‿◕。)づ ・。*。・゜✧・。*・゜゜・✧ *。・゜*✧
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4473
overlord 2 going to see the rax!
ScrambledX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Finland296 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4474
Double rax? 2-1! :D
http://sircom.blogspot.com/
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4475
Damn it cmon Jaedong, time to kill this nerd!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 25 2013 14:44 GMT
#4476
On August 25 2013 23:42 Incognoto wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:39 Bisu-Fan wrote:
How is Zerg supposed to win in this situation? So confused... It seems he had nice hits with his banelings, but literally terran has infinite marines/medi/mines


No, the medivacs aren't that expendable. Bomber is just that good at not losing them and is also good at making good trades.

Also:
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On August 25 2013 23:34 Incognoto wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:29 Incognoto wrote:
On August 25 2013 23:26 biteMe wrote:
On August 25 2013 23:24 scypio wrote:
On August 25 2013 23:23 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
I don't see how muta ling bane is ever suppose to win vs macro like that Bomber can literally throw away his army over and over it's so cheap vs the mutas Lings are pretty cheap but you need 4 lings to every marine pretty much


1. Do not make 16 lings that do nothing super early game
2. Do not forget baneling speed crucial for hodling this.
3. Watch Scarlett vs Bomber games where she rolls him with mula-ling-bling.

save your breath every single highlvl zvt looks like this on that map


The 16 lings weren't wasted they were used against the Hellions.

It was a calculated risk as well, if JD hadn't made those he wouldn't have been able to have the possibility to exploit the fact that Bomber might not have finished the wall. Just because they weren't used immediately doesn't put Zerg behind immediately, those units still have their use and honestly 16 lings isn't that heavy an investment even if it's early game.



Game 2: Bomber going quick 3 cc, JD is probably going to all-in from here as an all-in is the only proper answer to a quick 3 cc, you can't out-greed it as 4 hellions (400 mineral investment in units) can completely shut down a Zerg base.

Edit: Come to think of it I could be wrong because Siege Tanks help quite a lot vs all-ins so the attack could fail, but really if JD doesn't punish Bomber very soon he's going to lose.


Also note that having 2-2 advantage against 1-1 terran doesn't matter if Terran doesn't move out, you can't attack into Terran. I really don't see JD winning this at all.


Edit: I have no idea why Bomber decided to attack that far on creep.


JD focused down the medivacs and there were a couple of times it was marines + mines with no medivacs. Didn't seem to help JD at all.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
August 25 2013 14:45 GMT
#4477
On August 25 2013 23:42 Zealously wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:41 sh02hp0869 wrote:
On August 25 2013 23:39 BackSideAttack wrote:
lol jaedong is so bad at tvz now


He is not bad its just David Kim and his ideas of balance


Exactly, Jaedong is playing perfectly and there's nothing more he can do - zero mistakes and still loses

wait

Bomber is playing well, Jaedong less so - don't blame it on balance

Are you kidding?? Are you seriously saying that t v z is balanced???

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JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
August 25 2013 14:45 GMT
#4478
so he's 2-0 ahead and stilll cheeses like a boss
Doko
Profile Joined May 2010
Argentina1737 Posts
August 25 2013 14:45 GMT
#4479
On August 25 2013 23:43 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On August 25 2013 23:41 RiZu wrote:
Bomber is setting up his widow mines way better than yesterday... just what had happened in a day? Damn Jaedong you can still do it... don't get 0-4 please. 4-2 or 4-3 is fine. GOGO TYRANT!

He learned to not clump them up.
(like Inno, who has the best mine control)


His placement is still bad, you want mines to have something in front of them. JD could've send like 20 lings and detonated like 5-6 mines then ran bomber over when he was holding position at the watch tower
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
August 25 2013 14:45 GMT
#4480
JD got wrecked by Polt. This isn't wholly surprising.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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