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Vertitto
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland750 Posts
August 24 2013 18:58 GMT
#7141
On August 25 2013 03:57 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:56 Swisslink wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:54 Porishan wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:49 Swisslink wrote:
:-/
How did Scarlett end up behind in the lastgame?
1) Reaper: Almost no dmg
2) Hellions: Almost no dmg
3) Banshees: Almost no dmg

... and suddenly Bomber was on 3 bases while Scarlett couldn't move out. Should she just have Roach/Bane all-inned him?



u don't need to kill some workers or finish the opponent off, just contain


Yeah, I just felt like "Oh... Scarlett defended that Proxy Reaper rush quite well" and suddenly she was so far behind. Didn't really expect it to be so easy to transition out of such a proxy play.


To me it kinda looked like the reapers and hellions just kept her up her ramp and she didn't take that other 3rd either (with all the stuff from Bomber out on the map).

Bomber was preparing to get his 4th when Scarlett struggled to get her 3rd
FISH MAKE BLUB BLUB
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:03:59
August 24 2013 18:59 GMT
#7142
On August 25 2013 03:56 Porishan wrote:
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On August 25 2013 03:54 BigAsia wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:52 Nedereden wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:56 Nedereden wrote:
Just gotta say that after my high with DOTA2 / TI3, this torney is reminding me why ill be an RTS fan FOR LIFE. SC2 ftw.

What a skill level... ilzsdfjhbkjn

GG WP WCS.

Requoting myself....


Lol sorry but Dota 2 > SC2

Sorry but LoL > Dota 2 lol This is just a season final of RTS game. Next time, compare ur beloved MOBA with another MOBA please


SC2 AAR threads just ooze quality posts.

So many gems of all sorts of shapes, colors, sizes.

Shitty post begets shitty post and the whole thread burns. I remember why I stopped frequenting this subforum.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 24 2013 18:59 GMT
#7143
On August 25 2013 03:55 forsooth wrote:
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On August 25 2013 03:54 BigAsia wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:52 Nedereden wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:56 Nedereden wrote:
Just gotta say that after my high with DOTA2 / TI3, this torney is reminding me why ill be an RTS fan FOR LIFE. SC2 ftw.

What a skill level... ilzsdfjhbkjn

GG WP WCS.

Requoting myself....


Lol sorry but Dota 2 > SC2

You need to be permabanned and your computer set on fire. Immediately.

i second this
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
TheBarcid
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada44 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 21:23:23
August 24 2013 18:59 GMT
#7144
Really glad Scarlett played that so well. Even though she's out she showed that some foreigners aren't pushovers. Still gonna watch tomorrow. JD and Taeja are interesting enough to make me watch their games.

Fantastic day for Starcraft, hats off to the ESl guys this tournament was already amazing.
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
August 24 2013 18:59 GMT
#7145
On August 25 2013 03:58 BigAsia wrote:
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On August 25 2013 03:57 CCa1ss1e wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:55 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Scarlett just tweeted this.

http://i.imgur.com/Ge6hnMl.jpg


ahh.. that's unfortunate..

T_T


I honestly thought the Overlord saw the SCV as well, but then the casters said it didn't so I was like oh must have not. I wonder if she just missed it, or just plain ignored it confident in her abilities to defend


yeah, wouldn't mind hearing her thoughts.. it was a pretty good defend afterall.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
August 24 2013 19:00 GMT
#7146
Always sad for the scene when the last foreigner is knocked out. Oh well, time for next season.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:02:19
August 24 2013 19:00 GMT
#7147
On August 25 2013 03:57 BronzeKnee wrote:
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On August 25 2013 03:52 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:49 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:46 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:45 sudete wrote:
Can we all just appreciate that that was a fucking amazing series? Take the balance whine somewhere else

Seriously. Why are people complaining about those 2 mine hits when Bomber scrapped together an awesome contain (after a failed contain no less)?


That is exactly why people are complaining!

Bomber did an amazing job, had a nice lead, but then two Widow Mine hits ended the game! Those hits didn't showcase his skills.

But those two widow mines were pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Bomber getting his third up so fast while containing Scarlett on two bases with no creep spread is what won it. It was an insane lead.


You're right. But it is like this:

Imagine a football game where one side (I'll call them Bombers) has the lead, but the last time the teams played it looks similar, and the other side (Scarletts) made an awesome comeback and won.

So the Bombers have the lead, but Scarletts have a great quarterback capable of making a comeback, we know that because it happened last game. Tense game, very exciting.

Then the Scarletts quarterback trips over a linemen and breaks his ankle. Bombers go on to an easy victory, game over.

That is what happened, and it is anti-climatic.

I'm not sure you know it, but each widow mine of terran is actually a part of the terran army, not some random occurance. Infact WMs are probably the most vital unit in that army composition, since terran can't really deal with mutas and these insane number of banelings anymore. I won't disagree that I'd rather want rine tank back, but that's besides the point, without the WMs terran pretty much sucks in TvZ.

Edit: And ontop of that, those WMs didn't really matter, the game was over already unless bomber failed pretty hardcore, which while possible is unlikely(to the extend required to actually loose the game).
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 24 2013 19:00 GMT
#7148
On August 25 2013 03:58 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:53 lichter wrote:
GOOD POSTERS please migrate to Day 3 thread

BAD POSTERS, BALANCE WHINERS, HANDSHAKECONSPIRACYDUDES please stay here ty

hahahah this post is so good. see you on day 3 thread!~


The best part is they didn't notice or decided to follow my advice
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
August 24 2013 19:01 GMT
#7149
On August 25 2013 03:59 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:58 BigAsia wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:57 CCa1ss1e wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:55 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Scarlett just tweeted this.

http://i.imgur.com/Ge6hnMl.jpg


ahh.. that's unfortunate..

T_T


I honestly thought the Overlord saw the SCV as well, but then the casters said it didn't so I was like oh must have not. I wonder if she just missed it, or just plain ignored it confident in her abilities to defend


yeah, wouldn't mind hearing her thoughts.. it was a pretty good defend afterall.


Agreed. The following from Bomber was so strong though.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
August 24 2013 19:01 GMT
#7150
On August 25 2013 03:59 CCa1ss1e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:58 BigAsia wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:57 CCa1ss1e wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:55 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
Scarlett just tweeted this.

http://i.imgur.com/Ge6hnMl.jpg


ahh.. that's unfortunate..

T_T


I honestly thought the Overlord saw the SCV as well, but then the casters said it didn't so I was like oh must have not. I wonder if she just missed it, or just plain ignored it confident in her abilities to defend


yeah, wouldn't mind hearing her thoughts.. it was a pretty good defend afterall.

casters are good at casting. most of the time they don't realize important things more subtle unless the obs points them out.
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 24 2013 19:02 GMT
#7151
On August 25 2013 04:00 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:58 tshi wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:53 lichter wrote:
GOOD POSTERS please migrate to Day 3 thread

BAD POSTERS, BALANCE WHINERS, HANDSHAKECONSPIRACYDUDES please stay here ty

hahahah this post is so good. see you on day 3 thread!~


The best part is they didn't notice or decided to follow my advice

No fun in the Day 3 thread until the games get started again, and it's too easy to heckle the Prime fans in there anyways.

I accept my bad poster status anyways.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:03:28
August 24 2013 19:02 GMT
#7152
On August 25 2013 04:00 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:57 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:52 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:49 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:46 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:45 sudete wrote:
Can we all just appreciate that that was a fucking amazing series? Take the balance whine somewhere else

Seriously. Why are people complaining about those 2 mine hits when Bomber scrapped together an awesome contain (after a failed contain no less)?


That is exactly why people are complaining!

Bomber did an amazing job, had a nice lead, but then two Widow Mine hits ended the game! Those hits didn't showcase his skills.

But those two widow mines were pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Bomber getting his third up so fast while containing Scarlett on two bases with no creep spread is what won it. It was an insane lead.


You're right. But it is like this:

Imagine a football game where one side (I'll call them Bombers) has the lead, but the last time the teams played it looks similar, and the other side (Scarletts) made an awesome comeback and won.

So the Bombers have the lead, but Scarletts have a great quarterback capable of making a comeback, we know that because it happened last game. Tense game, very exciting.

Then the Scarletts quarterback trips over a linemen and breaks his ankle. Bombers go on to an easy victory, game over.

That is what happened, and it is anti-climatic.

I'm not sure you know it, but each widow mine of terran is actually a part of the terran army, not some random occurance. Infact WMs are probably the most vital unit in that army composition, since terran can't really deal with mutas and these insane number of banelings anymore. I won't disagree that I'd rather want rine tank back, but that's besides the point, without the WMs terran pretty much sucks in TvZ.


Yes, and moving with your legs is a vital part of football. Plenty of people have tripped and cost their team the game. It is a pretty anti-climatic ending compared to what could have been, because it is a simple stupid mistake. Flying your Mutalisks into Widows Mines is the same thing.

And you illustrate the problem well. Widow Mines are not only the most vital damage dealer for Terran, but a very important one for Zerg too. They eat Marines alive, and that is what sparked Scarletts comeback in Game 4.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:03:41
August 24 2013 19:03 GMT
#7153
On August 25 2013 03:57 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:52 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:49 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:46 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:45 sudete wrote:
Can we all just appreciate that that was a fucking amazing series? Take the balance whine somewhere else

Seriously. Why are people complaining about those 2 mine hits when Bomber scrapped together an awesome contain (after a failed contain no less)?


That is exactly why people are complaining!

Bomber did an amazing job, had a nice lead, but then two Widow Mine hits ended the game! Those hits didn't showcase his skills.

But those two widow mines were pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Bomber getting his third up so fast while containing Scarlett on two bases with no creep spread is what won it. It was an insane lead.


You're right. But it is like this:

Imagine a football game where one side (I'll call them Bombers) has the lead, but the last time the teams played it looks similar, and the other side (Scarletts) made an awesome comeback and won. In fact, they are 2-2 in recent history.

So the Bombers have the lead, but Scarletts have a great quarterback capable of making a comeback, we know that because it happened last game. Tense game, very exciting.

Then the Scarletts quarterback trips over a linemen and breaks his ankle. Bombers finish out of the game for an easy victory.

That is what happened, and it was anti-climatic. It was a great series though, Scarlett made one mistake, which cost her the game because units exist that can punish someone like that.


Did you miss the part where Bomber had 3/3 and a fully saturated fourth orbital when Scarlett had barely anything at her fourth? "trips over a linemen and breaks his ankle". It was over within a minute or two anyways. She got outplayed, stop crying and deal with it.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
August 24 2013 19:03 GMT
#7154
I have never seen someone not shake hands right after a Tennis match. Be it the small town tournaments i used to play as a kid or the biggest grandslam finals of your live. Pretty sure dreams got crushed there as well. Losing a hard or important game always feels bad.

I don't think shaking hands with the winner afterwards adds or subtract to that. It's just good sportsmanship and shows appreciation for their skills on both sides.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
August 24 2013 19:04 GMT
#7155
On August 25 2013 03:50 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:50 Kasaraki wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:49 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
3 fan favourites and First. First wins.

First is a fan favourite!

At least with the fans who matter.


The IM fans !


Yeah! the good fans! (Dirty look at ST fans)
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:09:46
August 24 2013 19:04 GMT
#7156
On August 25 2013 04:03 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 03:57 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:52 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:49 BronzeKnee wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:46 ssxsilver wrote:
On August 25 2013 03:45 sudete wrote:
Can we all just appreciate that that was a fucking amazing series? Take the balance whine somewhere else

Seriously. Why are people complaining about those 2 mine hits when Bomber scrapped together an awesome contain (after a failed contain no less)?


That is exactly why people are complaining!

Bomber did an amazing job, had a nice lead, but then two Widow Mine hits ended the game! Those hits didn't showcase his skills.

But those two widow mines were pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Bomber getting his third up so fast while containing Scarlett on two bases with no creep spread is what won it. It was an insane lead.


You're right. But it is like this:

Imagine a football game where one side (I'll call them Bombers) has the lead, but the last time the teams played it looks similar, and the other side (Scarletts) made an awesome comeback and won. In fact, they are 2-2 in recent history.

So the Bombers have the lead, but Scarletts have a great quarterback capable of making a comeback, we know that because it happened last game. Tense game, very exciting.

Then the Scarletts quarterback trips over a linemen and breaks his ankle. Bombers finish out of the game for an easy victory.

That is what happened, and it was anti-climatic. It was a great series though, Scarlett made one mistake, which cost her the game because units exist that can punish someone like that.


Did you miss the part where Bomber had 3/3 and a fully saturated fourth orbital when Scarlett had barely anything at her fourth? "trips over a linemen and breaks his ankle". It was over within a minute or two anyways. She got outplayed, stop crying and deal with it.


No I didn't miss that part, which is why I said the Bombers have the lead.

And maybe she wouldn't have made the comeback. Maybe not. How many people said GG in this thread after Bomber roasted all the Drones in Game 4? And that's the point. It could have been more epic and showcased skill. But instead the game ended in a silly way. We've seen amazing comebacks in football and SC2. And we've seen anti-climatic endings. This was the latter.

And I had no horse in this race man. I like Bomber and hope he wins it all.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 24 2013 19:04 GMT
#7157
In fencing after every bout, both players immediately salute each other and shake hands before even signing the official results sheet.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
August 24 2013 19:06 GMT
#7158
Wow, Innovation has 5350 WCS points. lol
ScrambledX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Finland296 Posts
August 24 2013 19:07 GMT
#7159
One of the greatest days of SC2 to date
http://sircom.blogspot.com/
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
August 24 2013 19:07 GMT
#7160
On August 25 2013 04:00 Saryph wrote:
Always sad for the scene when the last foreigner is knocked out. Oh well, time for next season.


having two foreigners advande to round of eight in a tournament as stacked as this? I dunno Im fine with the top being korean as long as the other regions can take games from them (and they can, Scarlett was close to a semifinal and Naniwa took down Innovation and Duckdeok (wich he lost to earlier but anyway))
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