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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 17 2013 18:16 GMT
#601
On August 18 2013 03:13 aznheat80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:12 Otolia wrote:
This kind of games makes me want to balance whine again. I hate Protoss so much.


Dayshi didn't actively upgrade his units.... Super was always really ahead in upgrades.

No upgrade, way too late ghosts, no ravens...Just so bad. He could have made hellion ranbys alot but he didnt.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
August 17 2013 18:17 GMT
#602
I actually think Dayshi still showed it's possible. The map wasn't good for late game and Dayshi can still improve a lot of things (earlier ghosts, earlier upgrades, more hellbats, better widow mine control etc.). He almost beat Super with it, not bad at all
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
August 17 2013 18:17 GMT
#603
For people saying he was behind in upgrades: yeah but 1) armories cost 100 gas and 2) terran cant chronoboost upgrades so mech will always be very behind in upgrades.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 17 2013 18:17 GMT
#604
On August 18 2013 03:17 Musicus wrote:
I actually think Dayshi still showed it's possible. The map wasn't good for late game and Dayshi can still improve a lot of things (earlier ghosts, earlier upgrades, more hellbats, better widow mine control etc.). He almost beat Super with it, not bad at all

Thing is, Super could have done much better twice as many things as well.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 17 2013 18:18 GMT
#605
On August 18 2013 03:13 aznheat80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:12 Otolia wrote:
This kind of games makes me want to balance whine again. I hate Protoss so much.


Dayshi didn't actively upgrade his units.... Super was always really ahead in upgrades.

As if that was a challenge in PvT. Chronoboosting upgrades has been a cornerstone of the match-up since Creator double forge play. If you want to argue about balance when I'm not, at least do it right ...
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 17 2013 18:19 GMT
#606
It'd be funny if ForGG now meched and won but sadly hes going bio
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 17 2013 18:20 GMT
#607
On August 18 2013 03:19 BlackCompany wrote:
It'd be funny if ForGG now meched and won but sadly hes going bio

The last time I saw him go mech in TvP was in HotS beta. Since then, he knows better.
Vete
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany190 Posts
August 17 2013 18:21 GMT
#608
^Give Mech a +15 dmg against shields upgrade with the research time like stim and we would see it ....
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 17 2013 18:21 GMT
#609
On August 18 2013 03:20 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:19 BlackCompany wrote:
It'd be funny if ForGG now meched and won but sadly hes going bio

The last time I saw him go mech in TvP was in HotS beta. Since then, he knows better.


Would still be funny though, guess Super would be wondering if he is stuck in the Matrix or something seeing 2 Terrans try to mech him back-to-back
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
August 17 2013 18:21 GMT
#610
so dayshi had hotkey problems (hence pauses)
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#611
On August 18 2013 03:19 BlackCompany wrote:
It'd be funny if ForGG now meched and won but sadly hes going bio


Since Super appears to know how to deal with mech that cannot happen. Protoss shits on mech like no other composition in this game.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
August 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#612
On August 18 2013 03:21 DOUDOU wrote:
so dayshi had hotkey problems (hence pauses)
https://twitter.com/M_Dayshi/status/368798552253681666


I wonder if he knows that you actually have to change which hotkey set you're using, in the settings.
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
August 17 2013 18:22 GMT
#613
On August 18 2013 03:22 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:19 BlackCompany wrote:
It'd be funny if ForGG now meched and won but sadly hes going bio


Since Super appears to know how to deal with mech that cannot happen.

Honestly after that last game I wouldn't be so sure.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 17 2013 18:23 GMT
#614
On August 18 2013 03:21 Vete wrote:
^Give Mech a +15 dmg against shields upgrade with the research time like stim and we would see it ....


That is the kind of design that killed mech in the first place. The immortal.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
aznheat80
Profile Joined August 2010
United States186 Posts
August 17 2013 18:23 GMT
#615
On August 18 2013 03:18 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:13 aznheat80 wrote:
On August 18 2013 03:12 Otolia wrote:
This kind of games makes me want to balance whine again. I hate Protoss so much.


Dayshi didn't actively upgrade his units.... Super was always really ahead in upgrades.

As if that was a challenge in PvT. Chronoboosting upgrades has been a cornerstone of the match-up since Creator double forge play. If you want to argue about balance when I'm not, at least do it right ...


What are you talking about? I didn't even mention balance at all. Dayshi was maxed with a bank of 1000/1000, and he didn't upgrade his units. I'm criticizing his play, not the balance of the game....
BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
August 17 2013 18:23 GMT
#616
On August 18 2013 03:17 Aquila- wrote:
For people saying he was behind in upgrades: yeah but 1) armories cost 100 gas and 2) terran cant chronoboost upgrades so mech will always be very behind in upgrades.

No excuse. He was maxed, a bank, and time to spare. Dayshi couldve easily been on 3/3 by the end battle. My question is why he didn't allin with his first push.. he had him at the ropes and his unit comp was not something that sustains throughout the lategame.
HoneyBadger.784 Diamond KR "A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep."
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 17 2013 18:23 GMT
#617
On August 18 2013 03:22 sevia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:21 DOUDOU wrote:
so dayshi had hotkey problems (hence pauses)
https://twitter.com/M_Dayshi/status/368798552253681666


I wonder if he knows that you actually have to change which hotkey set you're using, in the settings.

Yeah, I was thinking what Dayshi was doing when 50% of his army didnt even fight. They just backed off. No even single emp was shot.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 17 2013 18:26 GMT
#618
On August 18 2013 03:22 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:22 Aunvilgod wrote:
On August 18 2013 03:19 BlackCompany wrote:
It'd be funny if ForGG now meched and won but sadly hes going bio


Since Super appears to know how to deal with mech that cannot happen.

Honestly after that last game I wouldn't be so sure.

Super was so far behind and his army still crushed the mech almost without losing anything!
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 17 2013 18:27 GMT
#619
Super flanked the flank
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
August 17 2013 18:27 GMT
#620
On August 18 2013 03:23 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 03:17 Aquila- wrote:
For people saying he was behind in upgrades: yeah but 1) armories cost 100 gas and 2) terran cant chronoboost upgrades so mech will always be very behind in upgrades.

No excuse. He was maxed, a bank, and time to spare. Dayshi couldve easily been on 3/3 by the end battle.

Not even close.
The sheer amount of army he would have to give up for armories and upgrades would just get him killed quicker.
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