EPT[ASUS ROG] Day 3 Summer 2013 - Page 47
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Daralii
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On August 04 2013 01:12 ohampatu wrote: why would I be joking, this game showed dominance from taeja in 5 minutes because of build orders alone almost against the 1/1/1 that they do now adays you cannot both fast expand, get a robo, and get 3 gates you can have 2 of the 3 easily, but you will lack 1 of them, and it requires all 3 hence yes, I believe that a 1 gate/robo expand or a 2 gate expand is almost needed, 1 gate into expo into robo before extra gates, loses just like it did right here Or you can continuously produce units with your first gate, and not be out of position with your MSC when the attack hits? | ||
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robson1
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On August 04 2013 01:12 ohampatu wrote: why would I be joking, this game showed dominance from taeja in 5 minutes because of build orders alone almost against the 1/1/1 that they do now adays you cannot both fast expand, get a robo, and get 3 gates you can have 2 of the 3 easily, but you will lack 1 of them, and it requires all 3 hence yes, I believe that a 1 gate/robo expand or a 2 gate expand is almost needed, 1 gate into expo into robo before extra gates, loses just like it did right here Against 1/1/1 you make a nexus cannon and laugh. Against this widow mine drop you need to not cut corners so much (skipping everythin but 1 stalker)... also you need to not run out with your stalker and msc so that they cant get control off the ramp with the widow mine. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 04 2013 01:13 Daralii wrote: Alicia needs his makeup from that one GSL season to win, obviously. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qwGjq.png) I still can't believe they did that. | ||
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neptunusfisk
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On August 04 2013 01:13 TheDwf wrote: Or you can continuously produce units with your first gate, and not be out of position with your MSC when the attack hits? I didn't say he didn't play perfectly or didn't make mistakes. The msc placement had no reference at all on this push, it was back well in time to help defend, and the scout with MSC is pretty standard and needed now adays. All I said was, 1 gate into expo into 1 robo, if not played perfectly, seems to fold out just like that against that attack. It hits before warp is up. Units wise if he did what you proposed, he would have had 1 extra stalker, he wasn't ignoring his gateway at all during that game, his opening was completely standard. edit: 3 stalkers + MSC + Obs could still lose that fight just as easily, so im not sure what your suggesting, except to play perfectly | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32751 Posts
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CikaZombi
Serbia630 Posts
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Heartland
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Aeromi
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
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robson1
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On August 04 2013 01:17 ohampatu wrote: I didn't say he didn't play perfectly or didn't make mistakes. The msc placement had no reference at all on this push, it was back well in time to help defend, and the scout with MSC is pretty standard and needed now adays. All I said was, 1 gate into expo into 1 robo, if not played perfectly, seems to fold out just like that against that attack. It hits before warp is up. Units wise if he did what you proposed, he would have had 1 extra stalker, he wasn't ignoring his gateway at all during that game, his opening was completely standard. edit: 3 stalkers + MSC + Obs could still lose that fight just as easily, so im not sure what your suggesting, except to play perfectly No you said it's not possible to go 1 gate expo against an early agression build. But it is. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24604 Posts
On August 04 2013 01:19 BronzeKnee wrote: I hate Widow Mines. I think they're a brilliant new unit. I hate when they're dropped in my mineral lines though : P | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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ohampatu
United States1448 Posts
On August 04 2013 01:20 robson1 wrote: No you said it's not possible to go 1 gate expo against an early agression build. But it is. No i didn't. I said alot more than that. I said that the weakness in his build was exposed. Holding the new 1/1/1 by going gate into expo into robo is not easy. Never said anything was imbalanced, just that with the new aggressions I think a 1 gate/robo expand is better or a 2 gate expand possibly. Your putting words in my mouth I never said. I said that 3 stalkers + MSC + Obs would lose that engagement, which is what somebody above recommended doing. | ||
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shadymmj
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On August 04 2013 00:47 PhoenixVoid wrote: My memories of DRG in WoL was as an incredibly strong Lair-tech player who mastered Muta/Ling/Bane and Roach-based ZvP to an extent. The paradox occurs when HotS buffed Lair-units, yet DRG hasn't been performing as well in the expansion. DRG had some of the most abysmal in-battle micro i've ever seen for a pro player. his muta control was pretty good, that was about it. he is the epitome of the 1a2a3a zerg, but to his credit he at least knew how to position his stuff well. you could do that in WoL but not anymore since mines will kill everything and timewarp+ff gives protoss an advantage against clumped melee/short ranged units. | ||
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