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rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 19:59:21
August 10 2013 19:55 GMT
#4181
On August 11 2013 04:24 usethis2 wrote:
Having finished watching the series, I say the set 4 was the turning point. Rain should have either 1) squeezed units out of 2 bases and attacked Maru with higher food count, or 2) waited for Maru to attack into him while taking the 3rd base.

He tried to attack Maru in wide open ground and tripped his templar micro.


Rain was virtually maxed before the pivotal engagement had even happened, had already secured a third and was taking a fourth. The ground wasn't that wide open, and regardless Maru had absolutely no room to even consider flanking. There was nothing wrong with his attack timing, though he should have probably gone for Maru's fourth once Maru's ghosts came out. Unfortunately Rain clumped his units along with every single HT on the map stuck in the middle of his ball. Maru landed the clutch EMP's, pounced on Rain, and bopped him for it as any good Terran would.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 10 2013 20:05 GMT
#4182
Oh WOW....can't believe Maru won. GGs. :O
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
August 10 2013 20:09 GMT
#4183
On August 11 2013 03:40 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 02:50 Havik_ wrote:
LOL at the recommended games polls. It looks like the Prime fans have invaded the thread. Game 1 was a clinic on how to play PvT from the Protoss side.


I'm trying to figure out what people watched when they recommended game 7 >_>


game 7 is voted on so other people dont get spoiled
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
August 10 2013 20:13 GMT
#4184
On August 10 2013 20:12 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 20:08 DidYuhim wrote:
On August 10 2013 20:07 lichter wrote:
On August 10 2013 20:05 Ammanas wrote:
btw what everyone thinks of the OSL now? There was a lot of hate going on at the beginning of the season, but I think they nailed it with a production Ro16 on. I loved how the event was produced, I loved the Chobra segments and I have huge respect for Doa and Monte, cause they can cast two games at once on the highest level. Also, I loved Anaconda, imo it was the best map in map pool - I hope it will get used more as it produced a lot of very different games then normal.


Anaconda gets a lot of hate because a lot of people consider it 'gimmicky'.

I thought OSL was okay. Not quite all out production-wise but still really good. The player intros and hype videos were disappointing except for a few, though.

Yea, Anaconda is too gimmicky, we need more "straight-up macro maps", like Atlantis Spaceshitp


Atlantis Spacebear, Calm before the storm, Terminus RE, Whirlwind, Star Station, Red City, Delta Quadrant

lololol

Actually Anaconda is bigger than all of those maps except Star Station

Hahaha

Atlantis, calm and terminus were awesome...in their own strange way.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 21:44:55
August 10 2013 21:37 GMT
#4185
Just finished watching the series.
Game 2 was the best game, by far.

Overall an underwhelming series. Especially for an OSL finals. Such is SC2.

Watching it in Korean helps, though.
T P Z sagi
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 21:53:28
August 10 2013 21:52 GMT
#4186
On August 11 2013 04:31 KingofGods wrote:
I don't understand Rain's thought process in the last 2 games going with the gimmicky / all in plays. Rain is clearly the better player. I don't see how he could have lost with his standard 3 base collosi into ht play.


He will die to scv pull. And no he is not the better player.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
August 10 2013 22:02 GMT
#4187
On August 11 2013 06:52 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 04:31 KingofGods wrote:
I don't understand Rain's thought process in the last 2 games going with the gimmicky / all in plays. Rain is clearly the better player. I don't see how he could have lost with his standard 3 base collosi into ht play.


He will die to scv pull. And no he is not the better player.


Well he won the first game very decisively using this strategy and the game on starstation he didnt lose to SCV pulls he just took a very bad engagement... His defensive style has tailored to head into a lategame has been his backbone, and his success rate using that specific strategy is much greater than Maru's, so in that regards he is the better player. Of course you're not automatically the best if you mastered ONE style, but you'd expect him to use the style he is comfortable with when he is behind instead of immortal or dt all ins.

So not sure why you're so bitter.
Try another route paperboy.
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
August 10 2013 22:21 GMT
#4188
Saw Idra's tweet last night while I was out and got sad. Quite happy from the results.
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
sacade
Profile Joined January 2013
166 Posts
August 10 2013 22:45 GMT
#4189
In game 1 Rain did damage thanks to his prism (and good defense against dropships). In game 4 and 6, Maru learn to defend Warp prism and didn't try to attack too much with medivac.
I saw Maru improve in the serie, not Rain really falling.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 10 2013 23:01 GMT
#4190
On August 11 2013 07:02 Steel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 06:52 painkilla wrote:
On August 11 2013 04:31 KingofGods wrote:
I don't understand Rain's thought process in the last 2 games going with the gimmicky / all in plays. Rain is clearly the better player. I don't see how he could have lost with his standard 3 base collosi into ht play.


He will die to scv pull. And no he is not the better player.


Well he won the first game very decisively using this strategy and the game on starstation he didnt lose to SCV pulls he just took a very bad engagement... His defensive style has tailored to head into a lategame has been his backbone, and his success rate using that specific strategy is much greater than Maru's, so in that regards he is the better player. Of course you're not automatically the best if you mastered ONE style, but you'd expect him to use the style he is comfortable with when he is behind instead of immortal or dt all ins.

So not sure why you're so bitter.


big difference between game 1 and 4? Maru got a 2nd Starport in game 1 very early. This lead to very late ghosts. Maru could develope a healthy ghoust count early on in game 4 and defended the harass better. These factors made the difference. Rain did overall not so much different in those 2 games.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
August 10 2013 23:01 GMT
#4191
Will Maru change his name to Optimus ??
Michael James
Profile Joined May 2013
77 Posts
August 10 2013 23:46 GMT
#4192
On August 10 2013 19:36 Orangered wrote:
Must the entire SC2 international community ban Artosis from making "predictions"?

Poll: ban Artosis from making "predictions"?

Yes (176)
 
70%

No (74)
 
30%

250 total votes

Your vote: ban Artosis from making "predictions"?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Why? He only sees things as they will be in the future, it's not like he causes them...
rshawer
Profile Joined December 2012
178 Posts
August 11 2013 00:42 GMT
#4193
I hope Maru doesn't jump ship like polt did.
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
August 11 2013 01:06 GMT
#4194
oh damn, definitely an upset in my eyes. grats maru
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 11 2013 01:18 GMT
#4195
I have one question... who is that sitting by Creator / MKP O.o
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 11 2013 01:25 GMT
#4196
On August 11 2013 10:18 ragz_gt wrote:
I have one question... who is that sitting by Creator / MKP O.o


The guy with the tight pants?

Terror Prime probably.

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magicallypuzzled
Profile Joined June 2011
United States588 Posts
August 11 2013 01:33 GMT
#4197
On August 10 2013 19:34 Grovbolle wrote:
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Oh heck yes


thank you for this thank you so much.
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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 11 2013 01:56 GMT
#4198
Wow, I did not know that Artosis even got the score right this time. He is becoming more and more creepy.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 11 2013 02:16 GMT
#4199
On August 11 2013 08:46 Michael James wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 19:36 Orangered wrote:
Must the entire SC2 international community ban Artosis from making "predictions"?

Poll: ban Artosis from making "predictions"?

Yes (176)
 
70%

No (74)
 
30%

250 total votes

Your vote: ban Artosis from making "predictions"?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Why? He only sees things as they will be in the future, it's not like he causes them...

Because he spoils the results of a match before it even happens... :[

jjakji fan
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
August 11 2013 03:27 GMT
#4200
Finally watched the games. It was a really boring series. At least I can be happy for prime getting a win but this felt worse to watch then the hyun ZvZ gls finals.
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