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ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
August 03 2013 20:21 GMT
#3901
On August 03 2013 19:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 19:20 ThomasR wrote:
SNM confirmed retarded


What do you base this statement on? No doubt extensive medical research, but I would still like some details.


whiplash decided to give the viewers some background information on GGPlay since the camera showed him in the crowd, then SNM let out a huge ass sigh, like he doesn't gaf about what whiplash has to say

i'd like to see whiplash cast proleague next season, with maybe chobra or someone else
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 03 2013 20:49 GMT
#3902
On August 04 2013 02:54 Porishan wrote:
English vods are only for subscription ? why so mean


That's odd. I could watch the vods fine. They should be up on Youtube soon anyway.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 21:30:48
August 03 2013 21:24 GMT
#3903
Wanted to wait for the Korean VoDs, but I took a peek at the English ones (on Youtube).
I must say, that was much more of a crowd than I was expecting for SC2 Korea.

Edit: Reach!!! So happy to see other ex-pros/pros
T P Z sagi
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 03 2013 21:27 GMT
#3904
On August 04 2013 04:36 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 03:39 rift wrote:
On August 04 2013 03:20 Zealously wrote:
On August 04 2013 03:07 Ammanas wrote:
On August 04 2013 02:48 Muffloe wrote:
On August 04 2013 02:00 Ammanas wrote:
On August 04 2013 01:55 rift wrote:
i guess monk will have enough reason to keep bogus at #1 pr now

for anyone that watched, how was the crowd?


why wouldnt he keep the best player in the world as #1? O_o

crowd was good.


The key word here is "clean-sweep"


So what, one series doesn't mean he is no longer the best player in the world.
It goes basically like this:
-Soulkey is one level above everyone
-Innovation is only one above Soulkey

Therefore #1 and #2 right there. And it is actually not arguable, from the games and the sheer dominance they are showing in 2 hardest league in all Starcraft (so WCS KR and Proleague), there is no one and I mean no one better then them. Yes, I don't really like it, since I don't like Innovation's style too much, but there is no way around it.


I will agree that Innovation is still the clear #1, but Soulkey is by no means a level above everyone else. He's insanely good, naturally, but #2, #3, #4, #5 for me are actually hotly contested and not completely clear-cut.

Rain is 2 or 3 imo

After beating Symbol and Inno I guess Maru should into top5

Can't tell if serious
Refer to my post.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
August 03 2013 21:42 GMT
#3905
On August 04 2013 04:39 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 04:21 Lock0n wrote:
On August 04 2013 04:13 schaf wrote:
On August 04 2013 04:03 Tachion wrote:
That Soulkey vs innovation game made me pretty despondent about the state of Innovation v Z, but it seems like Soulkey missed a ton of opportunities to flank. He kept chasing Inno down the ramp and gave him as much room as he wanted to kite and split, I think he could have taken the engagements better if he swung around the side and sandwiched him a few times. Still hope!


On the other hand, with whom can you practice Zerg vs Innovation?


SK practiced with Flash before the GSL finals. However, it seems like Flash doesn't have the same level of understanding in the TvZ and TvP matchups as Innovation, but mechanically is just as good.

In SC:BW there was an option to play one side by two players. That's how BoxeR practiced some matchup (TvT?) before his first OSL. Obviously this way his opponent had pretty much perfect Macro and Micro (two progamers playing together one side) and was always beating him but that would make practicing against INnoVation possible. I wonder if you can do that in SC2 (maybe custom map?)

That's what Airforce Ace did when they had to play against Jaedong in an ace game. Pretty bad ass.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 03 2013 21:48 GMT
#3906
The finals is only one match?
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 21:51:33
August 03 2013 21:50 GMT
#3907
On August 04 2013 04:39 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 04:21 Lock0n wrote:
On August 04 2013 04:13 schaf wrote:
On August 04 2013 04:03 Tachion wrote:
That Soulkey vs innovation game made me pretty despondent about the state of Innovation v Z, but it seems like Soulkey missed a ton of opportunities to flank. He kept chasing Inno down the ramp and gave him as much room as he wanted to kite and split, I think he could have taken the engagements better if he swung around the side and sandwiched him a few times. Still hope!


On the other hand, with whom can you practice Zerg vs Innovation?


SK practiced with Flash before the GSL finals. However, it seems like Flash doesn't have the same level of understanding in the TvZ and TvP matchups as Innovation, but mechanically is just as good.

In SC:BW there was an option to play one side by two players. That's how BoxeR practiced some matchup (TvT?) before his first OSL. Obviously this way his opponent had pretty much perfect Macro and Micro (two progamers playing together one side) and was always beating him but that would make practicing against INnoVation possible. I wonder if you can do that in SC2 (maybe custom map?)


I miss Team Melee


On August 04 2013 06:48 painkilla wrote:
The finals is only one match?


Bo1, yeah. Standard for Proleague finals.
T P Z sagi
LOLZEY
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada71 Posts
August 03 2013 23:27 GMT
#3908
anyone know how much $$$ STX Soul won? how about WJS?
hi
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 03 2013 23:42 GMT
#3909
On August 04 2013 06:27 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 04:36 nimdil wrote:
On August 04 2013 03:39 rift wrote:
On August 04 2013 03:20 Zealously wrote:
On August 04 2013 03:07 Ammanas wrote:
On August 04 2013 02:48 Muffloe wrote:
On August 04 2013 02:00 Ammanas wrote:
On August 04 2013 01:55 rift wrote:
i guess monk will have enough reason to keep bogus at #1 pr now

for anyone that watched, how was the crowd?


why wouldnt he keep the best player in the world as #1? O_o

crowd was good.


The key word here is "clean-sweep"


So what, one series doesn't mean he is no longer the best player in the world.
It goes basically like this:
-Soulkey is one level above everyone
-Innovation is only one above Soulkey

Therefore #1 and #2 right there. And it is actually not arguable, from the games and the sheer dominance they are showing in 2 hardest league in all Starcraft (so WCS KR and Proleague), there is no one and I mean no one better then them. Yes, I don't really like it, since I don't like Innovation's style too much, but there is no way around it.


I will agree that Innovation is still the clear #1, but Soulkey is by no means a level above everyone else. He's insanely good, naturally, but #2, #3, #4, #5 for me are actually hotly contested and not completely clear-cut.

Rain is 2 or 3 imo

After beating Symbol and Inno I guess Maru should into top5

Can't tell if serious

can't tell if thick ;p
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 04 2013 00:47 GMT
#3910
It's nice to hear the crowd was pretty big and not just super good camera angles, I do love the reddit thread comparing it to the now 120k+ bw had.

Hopefully the TV numbers were great and we get the next season quickly.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
August 04 2013 01:00 GMT
#3911
I demand an LG-IM vs STX SouL showmatch!
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 04 2013 01:09 GMT
#3912
So does anyone know about when the next Proleague will be starting? Can't wait already!
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 04 2013 01:09 GMT
#3913
On August 04 2013 10:00 juicyjames wrote:
I demand an LG-IM vs STX SouL showmatch!

Agreed. Winner takes all - absorb the other team without salary.
Refer to my post.
Heinsenzerg
Profile Joined September 2011
Argentina2279 Posts
August 04 2013 01:24 GMT
#3914
How wicked would it be if proleague included a match that was 2v2?
tl2212
Profile Joined April 2013
Belize731 Posts
August 04 2013 01:38 GMT
#3915
On August 04 2013 10:24 Heinsenzerg wrote:
How wicked would it be if proleague included a match that was 2v2?

i wish sooooo bad they would bring back 2v2 in sc2
economy over everything
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 04 2013 01:38 GMT
#3916
On August 04 2013 10:24 Heinsenzerg wrote:
How wicked would it be if proleague included a match that was 2v2?

They actually used to have 2v2s in Proleague until 2007ish.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 04 2013 01:42 GMT
#3917
On August 04 2013 10:38 tl2212 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 10:24 Heinsenzerg wrote:
How wicked would it be if proleague included a match that was 2v2?

i wish sooooo bad they would bring back 2v2 in sc2

Definitely not. Imagine the balance whine.
kiss kiss fall in love
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-04 01:52:21
August 04 2013 01:51 GMT
#3918
its kinda nice in retrospective that skt1 was the only team that was on the same level with stx ... in a team as a whole sense.
we just lost because their ace is that tiny little bit better than everyone else atm... wjs also put up a good fight. ktflash on the other hand...

gz to STX soul for their first and very well-deserved championship!

"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 04 2013 02:01 GMT
#3919
My one pre-season prediction, not too bad I guess.

On December 07 2012 22:05 Hall0wed wrote:
I got STX as my sleeper team and Dear as my sleeper player.

♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 04 2013 02:09 GMT
#3920
for anyone that's wondering only the english vods are up on Youtube, no korean vods yet.
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