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Itsraiiningpaper
Profile Joined November 2009
United States25 Posts
August 03 2013 17:27 GMT
#3861
On August 04 2013 02:14 larse wrote:
English VOD is here:

http://www.twitch.tv/sc2proleague/profile/pastBroadcasts



Does anyone know whether there is Korean VOD out now?


yeah but these VODS are only available to subscribers?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 03 2013 17:40 GMT
#3862
Just watched the vods. Nice series. Especially game 5. Gotta love those crazy base race games! How was the viewership? It came on at a terrible time for NA fans.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
August 03 2013 17:44 GMT
#3863
That 4 hour finals video never loads anything for me but the other 22 minute one missing a bunch of games works fine.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 03 2013 17:47 GMT
#3864
is there a way to watch it without paying the subscription ?
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 03 2013 17:48 GMT
#3865
On August 04 2013 02:00 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 01:55 rift wrote:
i guess monk will have enough reason to keep bogus at #1 pr now

for anyone that watched, how was the crowd?


why wouldnt he keep the best player in the world as #1? O_o

crowd was good.


The key word here is "clean-sweep"
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 03 2013 17:50 GMT
#3866
On August 04 2013 02:47 xsnac wrote:
is there a way to watch it without paying the subscription ?

wait till the vods are up on youtube, not sure when that will be.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Itsraiiningpaper
Profile Joined November 2009
United States25 Posts
August 03 2013 17:52 GMT
#3867
they're up on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?tag_id=UCAI86CUHDIkKXGA6YpVBhYg.3.post-season&flow=grid&view=46
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
August 03 2013 17:54 GMT
#3868
English vods are only for subscription ? why so mean
@taefoxy
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 17:57:24
August 03 2013 17:55 GMT
#3869
On August 04 2013 01:02 MrMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 00:54 Rob-Zero wrote:
On August 04 2013 00:33 The_Templar wrote:
On August 04 2013 00:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
With the amount of wins WJS had... it's a shame that STX needed only one match... THey should have more... AND I'M SO MAD STX WON ! SO MAD !

Next year ... KT will win ! Damnit i'm mad ! grrr (see ? I'm mad).

Well congratulations to the winner

But why did they only needed ONE match ? i thought in playoff it was always 2 (or 3) best of 7.

STX had to win FIVE matches
and they won all of them

WJS had to win one match
and they lost


Still it makes no sense, if it is a best of 3 in both the quarters and the semis, why isn´t it in the finals ? Or like STX coming from the losers bracket, having to win twice whereas WJ has to win only ones? I have no problem with STX winning or so, I just find it strange to make the playoffs BO3, but not the finals.

The finals are BO1 because they aren't gonna rent out a large venue for 3 days. It's been this way since BW, iirc.
edit: Yes - since 2008-2009 they've been using this same format. Before that, they used 1 BO7 in all rounds.



That does not make more sense to me.

I didn't remember that it was not BO1 in BW but i believe you. I did not really follow BW after 2006

On August 04 2013 02:54 Porishan wrote:
English vods are only for subscription ? why so mean


5$ for the entire proleague is not really mean. GOM is like 10$ a month (not sure)
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
August 03 2013 18:02 GMT
#3870
Hey Woongjin fans, what happened bro?



Hey my STX brethren, hell yeah!!!!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
August 03 2013 18:03 GMT
#3871
On August 04 2013 03:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Hey Woongjin fans, what happened bro?



Hey my STX brethren, hell yeah!!!!

You betrayed SKT!
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 03 2013 18:04 GMT
#3872
On August 04 2013 03:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Hey Woongjin fans, what happened bro?



Hey my STX brethren, hell yeah!!!!


Traiter of your own team ! Innovation SLAYED Bisu in playoff. Where is your honnor ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 03 2013 18:04 GMT
#3873
On August 04 2013 03:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Hey Woongjin fans, what happened bro?



Hey my STX brethren, hell yeah!!!!

This post is bogus!
Moderatorshe/her
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
August 03 2013 18:05 GMT
#3874
On August 04 2013 03:04 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 03:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Hey Woongjin fans, what happened bro?



Hey my STX brethren, hell yeah!!!!


Traiter of your own team ! Innovation SLAYED Bisu in playoff. Where is your honnor ?

I must honor my word.
On August 03 2013 08:43 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 08:30 EpiK wrote:
On August 03 2013 07:12 munchmunch wrote:
On August 03 2013 06:52 EpiK wrote:
I want to taste sweet STX tears tonight
You think we'll cry if we lose tonight? Nobody expected STX here. We've got nothing to lose, no legions of fans to disappoint. The only reason we'll be crying tonight is out of pity for a Woongjin team that dominated all season, and then couldn't bring it when it counted.

+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, I'm going all in on STX. Icon switched and everything.

lol you just donned the stx logo and you're already using "we." Get off the bandwagon before it crashes kid

How about this proposal for something I've never done:

I will change my team icon to the winner of tonight's PL finals for one week if the LR thread can meet two conditions
A. If this LR thread can make it to 30 pages before tonight's first match
B. The majority of the posts MUST be STX vs WJS smack talk.

Disqualifications:
Anything antibisu from ppl carrying a WJS or STX tag

Perks:
Whoever has the most pro Bisu posts throughout their smack talk such as "Innovation's play is a great at Bisu's looks. That is why Innovation will eat WJS ugly face!" will gain me as their smack talk ally and paint propaganda master during the matches.

ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
August 03 2013 18:06 GMT
#3875
On August 04 2013 03:03 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 03:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Hey Woongjin fans, what happened bro?



Hey my STX brethren, hell yeah!!!!

You betrayed SKT!

STX Bisu is where it's at
[image loading]
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 03 2013 18:07 GMT
#3876
On August 04 2013 02:48 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 02:00 Ammanas wrote:
On August 04 2013 01:55 rift wrote:
i guess monk will have enough reason to keep bogus at #1 pr now

for anyone that watched, how was the crowd?


why wouldnt he keep the best player in the world as #1? O_o

crowd was good.


The key word here is "clean-sweep"


So what, one series doesn't mean he is no longer the best player in the world.
It goes basically like this:
-Soulkey is one level above everyone
-Innovation is only one above Soulkey

Therefore #1 and #2 right there. And it is actually not arguable, from the games and the sheer dominance they are showing in 2 hardest league in all Starcraft (so WCS KR and Proleague), there is no one and I mean no one better then them. Yes, I don't really like it, since I don't like Innovation's style too much, but there is no way around it.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
August 03 2013 18:07 GMT
#3877
On August 04 2013 02:52 Itsraiiningpaper wrote:
they're up on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV/videos?tag_id=UCAI86CUHDIkKXGA6YpVBhYg.3.post-season&flow=grid&view=46


Hope they upload the Korean VOD faster.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 03 2013 18:20 GMT
#3878
On August 04 2013 03:07 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 02:48 Muffloe wrote:
On August 04 2013 02:00 Ammanas wrote:
On August 04 2013 01:55 rift wrote:
i guess monk will have enough reason to keep bogus at #1 pr now

for anyone that watched, how was the crowd?


why wouldnt he keep the best player in the world as #1? O_o

crowd was good.


The key word here is "clean-sweep"


So what, one series doesn't mean he is no longer the best player in the world.
It goes basically like this:
-Soulkey is one level above everyone
-Innovation is only one above Soulkey

Therefore #1 and #2 right there. And it is actually not arguable, from the games and the sheer dominance they are showing in 2 hardest league in all Starcraft (so WCS KR and Proleague), there is no one and I mean no one better then them. Yes, I don't really like it, since I don't like Innovation's style too much, but there is no way around it.


I will agree that Innovation is still the clear #1, but Soulkey is by no means a level above everyone else. He's insanely good, naturally, but #2, #3, #4, #5 for me are actually hotly contested and not completely clear-cut.
AdministratorBreak the chains
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 03 2013 18:22 GMT
#3879
On August 04 2013 03:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2013 03:04 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 04 2013 03:02 BisuDagger wrote:
Hey Woongjin fans, what happened bro?



Hey my STX brethren, hell yeah!!!!


Traiter of your own team ! Innovation SLAYED Bisu in playoff. Where is your honnor ?

I must honor my word.
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2013 08:43 BisuDagger wrote:
On August 03 2013 08:30 EpiK wrote:
On August 03 2013 07:12 munchmunch wrote:
On August 03 2013 06:52 EpiK wrote:
I want to taste sweet STX tears tonight
You think we'll cry if we lose tonight? Nobody expected STX here. We've got nothing to lose, no legions of fans to disappoint. The only reason we'll be crying tonight is out of pity for a Woongjin team that dominated all season, and then couldn't bring it when it counted.

+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, I'm going all in on STX. Icon switched and everything.

lol you just donned the stx logo and you're already using "we." Get off the bandwagon before it crashes kid

How about this proposal for something I've never done:

I will change my team icon to the winner of tonight's PL finals for one week if the LR thread can meet two conditions
A. If this LR thread can make it to 30 pages before tonight's first match
B. The majority of the posts MUST be STX vs WJS smack talk.

Disqualifications:
Anything antibisu from ppl carrying a WJS or STX tag

Perks:
Whoever has the most pro Bisu posts throughout their smack talk such as "Innovation's play is a great at Bisu's looks. That is why Innovation will eat WJS ugly face!" will gain me as their smack talk ally and paint propaganda master during the matches.


Following non-Bisu SC2? I appreciate your open-mindedness.
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-03 18:48:49
August 03 2013 18:34 GMT
#3880
edited
wrong thread :x
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