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In our never-ending quest to destroy free speech, we have banned Twitch chat related memes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423487
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1881
On August 01 2013 19:24 NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:22 Wintex wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:20 NarutO wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:17 Wintex wrote:
Please bomber.. this is your osl... i said it before you even played the ro32.

i said it to you on facebook too.

please.


Did you really believe he will beat Rain? Bomber is - as much as I am a Terran fan - a very tricky pony with timings and play that can throw of players. Rain is as solid as it gets, and doesn't really get thrown off easily. While his weakness is being so chargelot heavy against mass medivac / bio style , scv pulls against him are not very worthy of anything besides in very low-economy games.

I feel a super greedy game would work out best for Bomber because his control is good so he can hit a timing which has storm, but not yet colossus so he can rule supreme with mass medivac +2/1 and lots of bio.

You do know who you are talking to, right? I will always believe in Bomber. I have believed every game. I will always do it.


At least not a fair weather fan t_T But believing and being reasonable are still two different things


Believing as hard as Wintex does in Bomber, for example, isn't always compatible with being reasonable. Same thing when I watch Life play (but then again that's worked out a fair number of times)
AdministratorBreak the chains
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1882
Wow, I actually do feel disappointed. I guess the law is working.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1883
come on bomber i want rain to win but i hope he can take it to g7
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1884
Damnit, Bomber, stop bombing out! All this preparation seems to be hurting Bomber. Instead of relying on his tried and true macro into endless waves of attacks he's employing early/midgame kill-builds, and vs Rain thats never something thats effective. We haven't seen the 3 base 7 rax with ghosts yet or whatever.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1885
On August 01 2013 19:25 Sevre wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:24 tuestresfat wrote:
is there a place i can find the music playlist?


I think Liquipedia has a page on it if you do a bit of searching.

thx i shall head there
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1886
On August 01 2013 19:24 Real-ISU wrote:
Why the fuck do they cast without Healthbars? Thats so bad casting... no chance to precalculate the army fights (Health, Energy, possible Feedbacks, EMPs)....


they use healthbars on hurt units only, so every unit that is full hp/energy doesn't show bars.
I think it's actually a little easier to see army status that way.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26044 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1887
On August 01 2013 19:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:23 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Best protoss in the world wins, PvT is imbalanced

sure.

DarkLordOlli not calling HerO #1 protoss? Must have tunneled to some bizarre dimension


HerO #1 protoss if he plays to his potential. If he consistently played like he did vs Hyun for example, the way Rain is consistent, he'd be the best and he'd be a multiple time GSL champion by now

More like it son!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1888
On August 01 2013 19:25 PerSe wrote:
Rain: play extremely solid, shows good drop defence on Star station, shows good game-sense by scouting hidden expo.
Fanboys: wtfbbq bomber's law, wtf bbq.

That was good drop defense?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1889
On August 01 2013 19:25 wangstra wrote:
Is something wrong with the streams? Gom tv seems to be on a completely different schedule to onegamenet...?

gomtv twitch stream is behind watch on gomtv.net
Moderatorlickypiddy
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1890
On August 01 2013 19:20 oriontr wrote:
is this the same man who won against innovation 2-0 ??????


Inno was only a winner when the hellbat existed...
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1891
On August 01 2013 19:25 samurai80 wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:21 xAdra wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:19 opterown wrote:
stop the damn balance whine

It never stops with the terrans. One game won by protoss and it's all tears and oh-my-gawd-sc-sucks-blizz-hates-terran

My thoughts exactly. People can't just admit a protoss player is just better. Rain is obviously better.

Stop making it sound like terran players are the only ones to balance whine.

Every single race has balance whiners, they're equally loud and they're equally ignorant. Best way to deal with them is ignore them.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1892
Rain's defence stat should like like 95+.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
August 01 2013 10:26 GMT
#1893
On August 01 2013 19:26 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:25 PerSe wrote:
Rain: play extremely solid, shows good drop defence on Star station, shows good game-sense by scouting hidden expo.
Fanboys: wtfbbq bomber's law, wtf bbq.

That was good drop defense?


Evidently good enough
Jaedong & Faker
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#1894
On August 01 2013 19:25 Yonnua wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:23 Sevre wrote:
I don't understand why Rain gets so much hate for being a "safe" macro orientated player, what's wrong with a bit of defence?


If everybody played like Rain it would be the most boring shit in the world. "I'm just going to defend and take another base" "Then I won't attack and will also take another base." Basically like a korean Thorzain/Hasuobs. The only reason we really see fights in rain games are when other people attack him. It's so boring to watch.


Yeah if everyone played like that it would be boring. But as it is I enjoy my methodical Hasu/Thorzain games from time to time. It's a different art.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#1895
On August 01 2013 19:25 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:22 asdfOu wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:21 xAdra wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:19 opterown wrote:
stop the damn balance whine

It never stops with the terrans. One game won by protoss and it's all tears and oh-my-gawd-sc-sucks-blizz-hates-terran

yeah cause that's not how every other race is right? since every single terran is the same while every single protoss player has the same mind and every single zerg has the same mind too right?

Yep. These terrans have been whining about TvP since years ago, even when pros say it's perfectly playable, and terran gets tons of strength in HotS. Basically, the terran fan favourites aren't allowed to lose, or else starcraft sucks. Protoss will mostly go like "ok.." when our pros lose because, let's face it, protoss pros dont normally win the gsl while zerg is zerg so yeah.

don't be snide
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#1896
On August 01 2013 19:23 Fjodorov wrote:
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On August 01 2013 19:21 Lunareste wrote:
On August 01 2013 19:18 Kreb wrote:
That was just bad decisionmaking.... land the stupid 3rd CC and plant a turret. Like a single DT stopped a 3rd base from going up for 5min. He can even do the same aggression anyway if he really wants, but he gets a free backup plan with a 3rd CC should it fail.


No way, he doesn't have the saturation to make a third count for anything. He was already stretching his defense too thin, keeping too much army in his main base; he couldn't have expanded the area where he needed to defend his economy without giving up his aggressive position against Rain as well.


from what i could see he wasnt keeping any army in his main base, just defending with rallys when needed. He could have outproduced rain if he landed his third and while working rain with his medivacs. Rain was on 1 base for some time with his third also getting sniped.


They showed Bomber leaving his main base mineral line with about 30 supply worth of Bio, that eventually met up with the rest of his forces outside of Rain's third. That bio had been there for a while. I'm telling you...he COULD NOT have defended against a Warp Prism coming in to warp in multiple zealots, he couldn't afford to drop a scan to destroy the DT waiting at his second expo, he had no way to stretch the defense at his home base.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#1897
On August 01 2013 19:25 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:23 Sevre wrote:
I don't understand why Rain gets so much hate for being a "safe" macro orientated player, what's wrong with a bit of defence?


If everybody played like Rain it would be the most boring shit in the world. "I'm just going to defend and take another base" "Then I won't attack and will also take another base." Basically like a korean Thorzain/Hasuobs. The only reason we really see fights in rain games are when other people attack him. It's so boring to watch.


Personally i really enjoy watching Rain's battle micro. The way he constantly re-arranges his army, templar splits, and collosus kites is a sight to behold.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 10:28:04
August 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#1898
On August 01 2013 19:25 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:23 Sevre wrote:
I don't understand why Rain gets so much hate for being a "safe" macro orientated player, what's wrong with a bit of defence?


If everybody played like Rain it would be the most boring shit in the world. "I'm just going to defend and take another base" "Then I won't attack and will also take another base." Basically like a korean Thorzain/Hasuobs. The only reason we really see fights in rain games are when other people attack him. It's so boring to watch.


Wow. Comparing Rain to thorzain. We're not being extreme here at all...

No one is as boring as Thorzain2013.

Also there's a ton of things Rain does in terms of battle micro and positioning that are neat as a toss. He's the best protoss by a country mile...

Despite the hyvva game.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#1899
On August 01 2013 19:26 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 19:25 PerSe wrote:
Rain: play extremely solid, shows good drop defence on Star station, shows good game-sense by scouting hidden expo.
Fanboys: wtfbbq bomber's law, wtf bbq.

That was good drop defense?


dudeee it's star station, there is no such thing.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
August 01 2013 10:27 GMT
#1900
Bomber's Law. Fucking Bomber's Law! T-T
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
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