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In our never-ending quest to destroy free speech, we have banned Twitch chat related memes.

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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 01 2013 09:55 GMT
#1341
On August 01 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Nerfing hardened shields breaks PvZ lategame

will ultras become that big of a problem?


Yes. They're already incredibly strong. You want like as many immortals as they have ultras which takes a ton of time to build, especially cause you don't really want them before that point. Now imagine that with nerfed hardened shields
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10152 Posts
August 01 2013 09:55 GMT
#1342
On August 01 2013 18:54 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Nerfing hardened shields breaks PvZ lategame

will ultras become that big of a problem?

They can't forcefield that shit.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 09:56:02
August 01 2013 09:55 GMT
#1343
No one commenting on how bomber's always able to start with an eco edge?

think that's an interesting tidbit.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1344
Rain really doesn't want to be suprised
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1345
On August 01 2013 18:53 julianto wrote:
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On August 01 2013 18:49 Sevre wrote:
Not going to lie, this Chobra/Whiplash combo is really doing it for me. They need to hook up more on SC2.

They need to cast the next season of SPL. OSL is getting more views than Tastosis (yes I know about the lag).

Do you know that the GOM twitch is STILL ON GAME 2 though? It's not just lag, the stream started about 15 minutes late.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1346
On August 01 2013 18:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[OSL] Ro4 Day 2 WCS Korea Season 2 2013
[image loading] (P)Rain vs. [image loading] (T)Bomber
Game 3 (1-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
Rain spawns in the top left
Bomber spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for Bomber
gateway first for Rain

2:00
gas for Rain
cybernetics core for Rain
zealot for Rain

3:00
2nd zealot for Rain
scv scout from Bomber
reactor for Bomber
2nd zealot of Rain is canceled
MSC for Rain
Rain sending the first zealot across the map
CC on the low ground for Bomber

4:00
Nexus for Rain
zealot runs straight into the main of Bomber to scout
factory for Bomber
2nd gas for Rain
zealot of Rain dies

5:00
Robo for Rain
Starport for Bomber
reactored hellion production started for Bomber
Bomber sending his marines out on the map
2 more gates for Rain
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 09:56:24
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1347
On August 01 2013 18:55 opterown wrote:
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On August 01 2013 18:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
All australians are austrians though. Opterown best austrian LR bonjwa

at opertown vs. au opterown deathmatch


I assume/hope those optertowns are horribly stereotypical versions of both those nationalities.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1348
On August 01 2013 18:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
All australians are austrians though. Opterown best austrian LR bonjwa

at opertown vs. au opterown deathmatch

KAG casts with hassy again and shellbot LRs.
The Bomber boy
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 09:56:57
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1349
--- Nuked ---
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 09:56:56
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1350
Nope, nexus cannon !

Oh but that'd be smart from Bomber... !
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 09:57:37
August 01 2013 09:56 GMT
#1351
On August 01 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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On August 01 2013 18:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:51 VisonKai wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:50 Vindicare605 wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.


Nerfing Hardened Shields does nothing vs Zerg .


wat.


As I said. it does nothing vs Zerg.

The only unit the Immortal is really needed against is the Roach, and Hardened Shields are not why Protoss uses Immortals vs Zerg. They use them for their damage.

Hardened Shields blocks 6 damage vs Roaches, it blocks 40 damage vs Siege Tanks.

Or if you want to be elegant about it you can do something like this:

Change Hardened Shields to a flat 50% damage reduction to all attacks on their shields greater than 10 damage to a minimum of 10 damage.

That'd mean Siege Tanks would do 25 damage instead of 10, Thors do 15 damage instead of 30 and Roaches stay the same.


The ultralisk.


Really dude?

Late game PvZ armies use Void Rays already as it is, and even if they don't the difference between Ultralisks and Siege Tanks is that Ultralisks are melee units so they need to actually close onto the Immortal to kill it, which can easily be stopped by just throwing Zealots in front to buffer while the Immortal deals its ridiculous anti-armored damage to kill it.

Even so, Ultralisks are almost never used vs Protoss since Swarm Hosts and Broodlords are superior late game units anyway.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1352
On August 01 2013 18:51 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:49 ZenithM wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:47 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:45 RamboJesus wrote:
It is so obvious that mech is not viable in TvP. I'm not saying mech should be buffed. I'm just saying that Terran has one strat and one strat alone in TvP.


I'm pretty sure a mech buff would be fine as long as it wasn't plain +thor damage or some shit. More creative and less arbitrary numbers could work.

The thing is, Terran doesn't need any buff right now. And making more strats viable is a pretty strong buff in itself, other races have to be ready for more stuff. It would probably have to come with some kind of nerf. I'm not sure they would be willing to fuck up Terran as it is now just to buff mech :D


Buffing Mech doesn't have to affect Bio the two are completely exclusive playstyles.

It doesn't work like that. Every viable strat you add to a race, no matter how independant from the already available options, is something more your opponents have to prepare for. For example, let's say that some matchup is at 50% winrate but side A doesn't need to invest in scouting options because they know what side B is doing. Add a completely different offensive option to B and now A has to scout, hence possibly shifting the balance.

It's good for variety, but not so straightforward for balance.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1353
On August 01 2013 18:56 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 18:55 opterown wrote:
On August 01 2013 18:53 DarkLordOlli wrote:
All australians are austrians though. Opterown best austrian LR bonjwa

at opertown vs. au opterown deathmatch


I assume/hope those optertowns are horribly stereotypical versions of both those nationalities.

if you want you can add in vn optertown too since i'm ethnically viet heh
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33659 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1354
is forge before gates 2 and 3 not a thing anymore?

or is rain just sexy
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1355
Dat look !
LiquipediaWanderer
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1356
Wut Bomber don't throw.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1357
nice control by rain!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1358
Uh oh, that's not good.
LiquipediaWanderer
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1359
Poll: Recommend Rain vs. Bomber Game 3?

Yes (29)
 
49%

No (22)
 
37%

If you have time (8)
 
14%

59 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rain vs. Bomber Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 01 2013 09:57 GMT
#1360
You just got Rained
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