On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote: [quote] HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.
Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
So if you're struggling to name 5 better zergs than Hyun, then wouldn't that mean he's relatively top-tier... Mind you I think Soulkey is a distant 1st from the rest of the zergs, but I'd lump Hyun into the huge bunch of lesser zergs.
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote: I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.
HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
soO was OSL Ro16, HerO was the WCS America Season 1 champion, YugiOh is in the third round of Code A after falling out of the OSL Ro32 after losing to Flash and Soulkey, NaNiwa was the DreamHack Stockholm runner-up, LucifroN is the best foreigner right now, TheStC 29:00 http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/b/432882074 pretty top tier taking a ~50 minute game off of Jaedong.
Did you see soo's games vs gumiho this week? Naniwa is good for a foreigner. Yugioh, I've already said is just ok. Hero got smashed at wcs finals. Lucifron is the most overrated foreigner and always chokes at lans compared to the hype people give him. Have you seen the stc play lately? He lost to huk for god's sake this week. He's been on a steady decline for a while now and was never top tier in the first place anyways.
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.
Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
So if you're struggling to name 5 better zergs than Hyun, then wouldn't that mean he's relatively top-tier... Mind you I think Soulkey is a distant 1st from the rest of the zergs, but I'd lump Hyun into the huge bunch of lesser zergs.
No, because there doesn't have to be an equal distribution of top tier players per race.
Myungsik takes 1 game off Innovation and all of a sudden he's the next Protoss superstar. His poor proleague performance is much more indicative of his skill.
Ok, there are one top tier zerg in the world. Korean leagues are not that hard either because there are only couple top tier players there. There are zero top tier tournaments in the world. Great thinking.
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote: I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.
HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
soO was OSL Ro16, HerO was the WCS America Season 1 champion, YugiOh is in the third round of Code A after falling out of the OSL Ro32 after losing to Flash and Soulkey, NaNiwa was the DreamHack Stockholm runner-up, LucifroN is the best foreigner right now, TheStC 29:00 http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/b/432882074 pretty top tier taking a ~50 minute game off of Jaedong.
Did you see soo's games vs gumiho last week? Naniwa is good for a foreigner. Yugioh, I've already said is just ok. Hero got smashed at wcs finals. Lucifron is the most overrated foreigner and always chokes at lans compared to the hype people give him. Have you seen the stc play lately? He lost to huk for god's sake last week. He's been on a steady decline for a while now and was never top tier in the first place anyways.
You're stubborn. Why are you even watching this tournament? If HerO and MC aren't good players who is that's left? ^_^
Myungsik takes 1 game off Innovation and all of a sudden he's the next Protoss superstar. His poor proleague performance is much more indicative of his skill.
Did you watch that game? His PvT was god-like... He's just fucking terrible at PvP hence why TitaN beating him isn't an upset.
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.
Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
So if you're struggling to name 5 better zergs than Hyun, then wouldn't that mean he's relatively top-tier... Mind you I think Soulkey is a distant 1st from the rest of the zergs, but I'd lump Hyun into the huge bunch of lesser zergs.
hyun is very good.. but you have to understand there's just a gap between players like soulkey and hyun. its like the gap between polt and innovation.. polt is great but innovation is just at a higher (the highest) level.
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote: I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.
HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
soO was OSL Ro16, HerO was the WCS America Season 1 champion, YugiOh is in the third round of Code A after falling out of the OSL Ro32 after losing to Flash and Soulkey, NaNiwa was the DreamHack Stockholm runner-up, LucifroN is the best foreigner right now, TheStC 29:00 http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/b/432882074 pretty top tier taking a ~50 minute game off of Jaedong.
Did you see soo's games vs gumiho this week? Naniwa is good for a foreigner. Yugioh, I've already said is just ok. Hero got smashed at wcs finals. Lucifron is the most overrated foreigner and always chokes at lans compared to the hype people give him. Have you seen the stc play lately? He lost to huk for god's sake last week. He's been on a steady decline for a while now and was never top tier in the first place anyways.
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote: [quote] Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.
Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
So if you're struggling to name 5 better zergs than Hyun, then wouldn't that mean he's relatively top-tier... Mind you I think Soulkey is a distant 1st from the rest of the zergs, but I'd lump Hyun into the huge bunch of lesser zergs.
No, because there doesn't have to be an equal distribution of top tier players per race.
So there's only one top tier zerg in the entire SC2 community. David Kim must did a terrible job to this race.
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote: I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.
HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
soO was OSL Ro16, HerO was the WCS America Season 1 champion, YugiOh is in the third round of Code A after falling out of the OSL Ro32 after losing to Flash and Soulkey, NaNiwa was the DreamHack Stockholm runner-up, LucifroN is the best foreigner right now, TheStC 29:00 http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/b/432882074 pretty top tier taking a ~50 minute game off of Jaedong.
Did you see soo's games vs gumiho this week? Naniwa is good for a foreigner. Yugioh, I've already said is just ok. Hero got smashed at wcs finals. Lucifron is the most overrated foreigner and always chokes at lans compared to the hype people give him. Have you seen the stc play lately? He lost to huk for god's sake last week. He's been on a steady decline for a while now and was never top tier in the first place anyways.
On July 27 2013 15:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On July 27 2013 15:03 scBaldwin wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:57 Baroninthetree wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote: [quote]
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.
Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
So if you're struggling to name 5 better zergs than Hyun, then wouldn't that mean he's relatively top-tier... Mind you I think Soulkey is a distant 1st from the rest of the zergs, but I'd lump Hyun into the huge bunch of lesser zergs.
No, because there doesn't have to be an equal distribution of top tier players per race.
So there's only one top tier zerg in the entire SC2 community. David Kim must did a terrible job to this race.
dude.. you're really not understanding...
there's only 3-5 maybe of top top tier protoss and terran right now as well.. being at the highest level of play (innovation, first, soulkey) is just totally different than the level of the players you're familiar with in foreign tournaments.
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote: I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.
HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
soO was OSL Ro16, HerO was the WCS America Season 1 champion, YugiOh is in the third round of Code A after falling out of the OSL Ro32 after losing to Flash and Soulkey, NaNiwa was the DreamHack Stockholm runner-up, LucifroN is the best foreigner right now, TheStC 29:00 http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/b/432882074 pretty top tier taking a ~50 minute game off of Jaedong.
Did you see soo's games vs gumiho this week? Naniwa is good for a foreigner. Yugioh, I've already said is just ok. Hero got smashed at wcs finals. Lucifron is the most overrated foreigner and always chokes at lans compared to the hype people give him. Have you seen the stc play lately? He lost to huk for god's sake last week. He's been on a steady decline for a while now and was never top tier in the first place anyways.
On July 27 2013 15:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On July 27 2013 15:03 scBaldwin wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:57 Baroninthetree wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote: [quote]
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.
Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
So if you're struggling to name 5 better zergs than Hyun, then wouldn't that mean he's relatively top-tier... Mind you I think Soulkey is a distant 1st from the rest of the zergs, but I'd lump Hyun into the huge bunch of lesser zergs.
No, because there doesn't have to be an equal distribution of top tier players per race.
So there's only one top tier zerg in the entire SC2 community. David Kim must did a terrible job to this race.
In a same way Innovation in only top tier terran and Rain is only top tier Protoss.
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote: [quote] HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol
You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?
Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?
There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.
So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.
I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
soO was OSL Ro16, HerO was the WCS America Season 1 champion, YugiOh is in the third round of Code A after falling out of the OSL Ro32 after losing to Flash and Soulkey, NaNiwa was the DreamHack Stockholm runner-up, LucifroN is the best foreigner right now, TheStC 29:00 http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/b/432882074 pretty top tier taking a ~50 minute game off of Jaedong.
Did you see soo's games vs gumiho this week? Naniwa is good for a foreigner. Yugioh, I've already said is just ok. Hero got smashed at wcs finals. Lucifron is the most overrated foreigner and always chokes at lans compared to the hype people give him. Have you seen the stc play lately? He lost to huk for god's sake last week. He's been on a steady decline for a while now and was never top tier in the first place anyways.
On July 27 2013 15:05 ssxsilver wrote:
On July 27 2013 15:03 scBaldwin wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:57 Baroninthetree wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote: [quote] I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.
DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe
Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.
YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.
Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
So if you're struggling to name 5 better zergs than Hyun, then wouldn't that mean he's relatively top-tier... Mind you I think Soulkey is a distant 1st from the rest of the zergs, but I'd lump Hyun into the huge bunch of lesser zergs.
No, because there doesn't have to be an equal distribution of top tier players per race.
So there's only one top tier zerg in the entire SC2 community. David Kim must did a terrible job to this race.
dude.. you're really not understanding...
there's only 3-5 maybe of top top tier protoss and terran right now as well.. being at the highest level of play (innovation, first, soulkey) is just totally different than the level of the players you're familiar with in foreign tournaments.
I understand there's always a player better than all the others, like innovation, life soulkey did. But a top 3 zerg in the world is not a top tier player? you really need to refine your definition of top tier. Or maybe you mean the best.
EPT
Puzzle, 
YugiOh, 
TheStC, 
