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Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
July 27 2013 05:51 GMT
#701
On July 27 2013 14:45 iaguz wrote:
I actually wanted to play hyun, my tvz is my best mu and I had studied him enough to feel confident.

Ah well. Next time maybe?

Gotta qualify for NY I suppose.

Amazing game vs polt though! Really impressed even not you best match up.
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
July 27 2013 05:52 GMT
#702
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote:
I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.

HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol


You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?

Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?


There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.

So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.

I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.

DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe

DreamHack Summer - Daisy, Stephano, sLivko, TheStC, GuMiho

HomeStory Cup 7 - MaNa, HasuObs, viOLet, MC

MLG Spring - Bubbles, the Coach Park slayer, YugiOh, soO, Sound, HerO, HerO again

DreamHack Valencia - VortiX, TheStC, LucifroN, Goswser, Jaedong

SO EZ, YO. SO EZ.


Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.

Let's see, how many zerg you rate ahead Hyun then?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 27 2013 05:55 GMT
#703
On July 27 2013 14:33 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:28 BigFan wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 xyzz wrote:
Painful loss for Hyun, well playerd by Polt. Though i see this a little to much these days.

Seems like as long as you speed boost the medivacs home after all your Marines are dead, Terran trades about twice as efficient as any other race in the game during combats where the enemy doesn't make a mistake, and when the enemy does make a mistake in his army splitting, it's over.

medivacs are useless supply if there is no army left though


Generaly though terran keeps production up even during the attack ? kinda depends on the map aswell ofc and if zerg has any units left to fight with but i would say you need something to kill off medivacs or they simply start to get numbers you can't counter anymore as a zerg.

ya of course but you need to macro well behind the attack.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
July 27 2013 05:56 GMT
#704
Please no Corruptors this time HyuN.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 27 2013 05:56 GMT
#705
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote:
I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.

HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol


You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?

Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?


There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.

So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.

I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.

DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe

DreamHack Summer - Daisy, Stephano, sLivko, TheStC, GuMiho

HomeStory Cup 7 - MaNa, HasuObs, viOLet, MC

MLG Spring - Bubbles, the Coach Park slayer, YugiOh, soO, Sound, HerO, HerO again

DreamHack Valencia - VortiX, TheStC, LucifroN, Goswser, Jaedong

SO EZ, YO. SO EZ.


Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.


YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.


Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
July 27 2013 05:57 GMT
#706
On July 27 2013 14:56 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote:
I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.

HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol


You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?

Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?


There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.

So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.

I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.

DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe

DreamHack Summer - Daisy, Stephano, sLivko, TheStC, GuMiho

HomeStory Cup 7 - MaNa, HasuObs, viOLet, MC

MLG Spring - Bubbles, the Coach Park slayer, YugiOh, soO, Sound, HerO, HerO again

DreamHack Valencia - VortiX, TheStC, LucifroN, Goswser, Jaedong

SO EZ, YO. SO EZ.


Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.


YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.


Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.

srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 27 2013 05:58 GMT
#707
No storm tt
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
July 27 2013 05:58 GMT
#708
how does anyone forget storm?!
......
moo...for DRG
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 27 2013 05:58 GMT
#709
HYUNED!

Lair4Life
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
jnsjr
Profile Joined February 2011
United States461 Posts
July 27 2013 05:58 GMT
#710
Ouch, he forgot storm.
Z: Idra #1 Stephano JD Scarlett Dimaga Life Violet DRG Sen; T: Demuslim Puma Illusion Bomber Polt TSpoon Strelok; P: Hasuobs Huk; Casters: Apollo #1 Axslav DJWheat Tasteless Bitter Artosis Incontrol RSimpson Psy Team: Let's GO EG!!
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 27 2013 05:58 GMT
#711
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote:
I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.

HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol


You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?

Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?


There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.

So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.

I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.

DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe

DreamHack Summer - Daisy, Stephano, sLivko, TheStC, GuMiho

HomeStory Cup 7 - MaNa, HasuObs, viOLet, MC

MLG Spring - Bubbles, the Coach Park slayer, YugiOh, soO, Sound, HerO, HerO again

DreamHack Valencia - VortiX, TheStC, LucifroN, Goswser, Jaedong

SO EZ, YO. SO EZ.


Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.

soO was OSL Ro16, HerO was the WCS America Season 1 champion, YugiOh is in the third round of Code A after falling out of the OSL Ro32 after losing to Flash and Soulkey, NaNiwa was the DreamHack Stockholm runner-up, LucifroN is the best foreigner right now, TheStC 29:00 http://www.twitch.tv/nathanias/b/432882074 pretty top tier taking a ~50 minute game off of Jaedong.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
July 27 2013 05:59 GMT
#712
On July 27 2013 14:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
HYUNED!

Lair4Life

You know how Artosis says HyuN has a Roach tattoo? HyuN has "Lair4Life" as well.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 27 2013 06:00 GMT
#713
Poll: Recommend Hyun vs Daisy Game 1?

If you have time (4)
 
67%

Yes (1)
 
17%

No (1)
 
17%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Hyun vs Daisy Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 27 2013 06:00 GMT
#714
i think daisy would have won the game with storm.
scBaldwin
Profile Joined September 2012
United States111 Posts
July 27 2013 06:01 GMT
#715
lmfao apollo
@BaldwintheBold
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 27 2013 06:01 GMT
#716
hmm forgetting storm was definitely a big slip up there. Hyun definitely got this!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
scBaldwin
Profile Joined September 2012
United States111 Posts
July 27 2013 06:02 GMT
#717
On July 27 2013 14:56 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote:
I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.

HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol


You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?

Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?


There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.

So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.

I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.

DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe

DreamHack Summer - Daisy, Stephano, sLivko, TheStC, GuMiho

HomeStory Cup 7 - MaNa, HasuObs, viOLet, MC

MLG Spring - Bubbles, the Coach Park slayer, YugiOh, soO, Sound, HerO, HerO again

DreamHack Valencia - VortiX, TheStC, LucifroN, Goswser, Jaedong

SO EZ, YO. SO EZ.


Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.


YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.


Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.

yeah man i'm completely with you on pretty much all these points
@BaldwintheBold
scBaldwin
Profile Joined September 2012
United States111 Posts
July 27 2013 06:03 GMT
#718
On July 27 2013 14:57 Baroninthetree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:23 Packawana wrote:
I want to see Polt up against the top Koreans. He is playing almost as well as Innovation right now.

HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol


You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?

Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?


There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.

So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.

I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.

DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe

DreamHack Summer - Daisy, Stephano, sLivko, TheStC, GuMiho

HomeStory Cup 7 - MaNa, HasuObs, viOLet, MC

MLG Spring - Bubbles, the Coach Park slayer, YugiOh, soO, Sound, HerO, HerO again

DreamHack Valencia - VortiX, TheStC, LucifroN, Goswser, Jaedong

SO EZ, YO. SO EZ.


Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.


YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.


Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.

srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?

soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think
@BaldwintheBold
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 27 2013 06:05 GMT
#719
On July 27 2013 15:03 scBaldwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 14:57 Baroninthetree wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:56 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:50 lichter wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:48 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:45 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:35 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:28 Canucklehead wrote:
On July 27 2013 14:27 Elite_ wrote:
[quote]
HyuN isn't a top Korean? He's tied with Maru & JaeKong for rank 16 in WCS points... and he'll be tied with Rain for #15 once he beats Daisy and reaches the Ro8... lol


You really want to go by wcs points when hyun is farming wcs points from foreign tourneys and wcs na?

Yes. You think consistently getting top 8 at every single top tier foreign tournament is easy?


There's no such thing as a top tier foreign tourney competition wise anymore since the introduction of wcs. Europe never had a ton of koreans in their tourneys, so it's status quo there, but last MLG was the weakest level of competition since koreans started playing in them.

So yes, I don't think it's that impressive. A number of the top tier koreans could do the same if given the same opportunities. Foreign tourneys these day consist mainly of just koreans on foreign teams for the most part.

I'll list the notable opponents HyuN has beaten at each tournament since you're so stubborn.

DreamHack Stockholm - Puzzle, elfi, MC, NaNiwa, YugiOh, SaSe

DreamHack Summer - Daisy, Stephano, sLivko, TheStC, GuMiho

HomeStory Cup 7 - MaNa, HasuObs, viOLet, MC

MLG Spring - Bubbles, the Coach Park slayer, YugiOh, soO, Sound, HerO, HerO again

DreamHack Valencia - VortiX, TheStC, LucifroN, Goswser, Jaedong

SO EZ, YO. SO EZ.


Gumiho and Jaedong and possibly violet are the only 3 on that list I would classify as tough wins.


YugiOh was in OSL. He is better than Jaedong.


Well jaedong is a curious case because of how awful zvp is. I wouldn't really consider him top tier, but he's still decent at the other matchups. However, it is hard to gauge jaedong cause he has a lot of success at foreign tourneys too playing lesser competition. He did ok in proleague but was never dominant there. Yugioh has his moments, but I've never considered him a top zerg ever even during his peaks.

srsly, who do you think is top tier zerg? Care to give a zerg rank in your mind?

soulkey.. life from 6 months ago.. not much else. not as many top top tier zergs as there are protoss and terran right now i think

TRUE
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 27 2013 06:05 GMT
#720
TitaN beating MyuNgSiK was an upset? http://www.aligulac.com/players/1709/results/?after=&before=&race=p&nats=all&bo=all&offline=offline&game=HotS
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