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On July 23 2013 19:44 monkybone wrote:
Innovation usually brings the most entertaining terran play to the table
I say entertaining would be XY after yesterday, he plays different game of terran sc2, a bit like jim also chinese, alot of timings and very nice (but gimmicky sometimes too).. Best and most solid, innovation indeed
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On July 23 2013 19:47 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs... It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive. Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units. Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility. The reasons go on and on. Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens. If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech. They are not meant to be mixed together. Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup. I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason. Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push. No, not really.
Um yes. Zerg could be so greedy behind a roach waren and a few spores.
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Maru looks so adorable :3
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On July 23 2013 19:44 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:42 Ragnarork wrote:On July 23 2013 19:40 forsooth wrote:On July 23 2013 19:37 ZenithM wrote:On July 23 2013 19:36 HaruRH wrote:
My body is ready for a TvT finals At last. :D Have we had one since Mvp played MMA at Blizzcon in 2011? Nope. Jjakji - Leenock Genius - DRG Mvp - Squirtle MC - Seed Life - Mvp Sniper - Hyun RorO - Symbol Inno - Soulkey Not that much mirrors either by the way ! My body is ready for a final without a zerg. It's been a pretty long time.
It's been a long time and it's been a PvP 
I want a TvP but sadly not this time... So a TvT would be cool ! Actually, I just realized I want, like I FUCKING WANT Bomber vs INno in the finals
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I wish gom played the interviews ffs. Totally forgot about them
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On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs... It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive. Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units. Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility. The reasons go on and on. Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens. If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech. They are not meant to be mixed together. Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup. I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason. Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.
You could EASILY nerf Hardened Shields so that they didn't hard counter Siege Tanks and still keep the Immortal as good as it is vs Zerg.
The 10 damage cap means 2 damage mitigation vs Roaches without upgrades, it means 40 damage vs siege tanks.
You could up the armor on Immortals by 2, and set the cap on Hardened Shields to 25 damage and you'd make HUGE headway in making the unit less of a hard counter vs Mech.
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that hype for maru being mini flash or "minivation" (lol) or MarinePrincePrime...
show some respect. He's MaruPrime, and in that series, he pretty much made a statement for himself.
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Wow chobra! Hes really really good at translating. Thumbs up!
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Anyone know why they always say "Master" before they annouce their players at the start of every game? I think i heard them say "grandmaster" sometime.
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god damn that interview lady on OGN is so fine
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that's yoora interviewing right? (barbie)
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On July 23 2013 19:49 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs... It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive. Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units. Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility. The reasons go on and on. Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens. If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech. They are not meant to be mixed together. Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup. I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason. Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push. You could EASILY nerf Hardened Shields so that they didn't hard counter Siege Tanks and still keep the Immortal as good as it is vs Zerg. The 10 damage cap means 2 damage mitigation vs Roaches without upgrades, it means 40 damage vs siege tanks. You could up the armor on Immortals by 2, and set the cap on Hardened Shields to 25 damage and you'd make HUGE headway in making the unit less of a hard counter vs Mech.
Doesn't seem like a bad thought Vindi.
On July 23 2013 19:49 opterown wrote:
that's yoora interviewing right? (barbie)
Yes
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On July 23 2013 19:48 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:47 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs... It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive. Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units. Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility. The reasons go on and on. Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens. If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech. They are not meant to be mixed together. Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup. I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason. Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push. No, not really. Um yes. Zerg could be so greedy behind a roach waren and a few spores.
No. There are many different forms of pressure in early and mid-game, not to mention entire all-ins that are relevant in the PvZ matchup. The sentry/immortal push is very rare in Hots. PvZ is just too complex to make it come down to the threat of immortal/sentry.
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On July 23 2013 19:45 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:43 DidYuhim wrote:On July 23 2013 19:38 Lunareste wrote:On July 23 2013 19:36 Msr wrote:On July 23 2013 19:35 sashkata wrote:
Artosis predict 3:1 for Symbol. Maru wins 3:1 :D that is because people who understand the game know how much better symbol is. Just didnt workout today. I dunno man, I've always felt that Symbol was riding on the back of patchzerg and roach nydus play. I mean I think he's solid as fuck, but I've never seen that spark in him that is so clear to me when I watch someone like Soulkey play. Maru played like a beast today though, no doubt about it. So much this. Symbol never gives off that "perfect" vibe that a lot of other Zergs do. And the number of fanboys on TL forums overhyping him last year, despite being THE winfestor zerg, hurt my heart beyond recovery. Yeah we get now calm down xD. You're the same guy who said "any prediction on symbol is idiotic"
Yes, I still think that every person that wants Symbol to win is hurting the SC2.
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On July 23 2013 19:48 govie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:44 monkybone wrote:
Innovation usually brings the most entertaining terran play to the table I say entertaining would be XY after yesterday, he plays different game of terran sc2, a bit like jim also chinese, alot of timings and very nice (but gimmicky sometimes too).. Best and most solid, innovation indeed
Polt crushed XY in TvT, XY looked horrible in those games.
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On July 23 2013 19:48 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:47 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs... It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive. Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units. Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility. The reasons go on and on. Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens. If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech. They are not meant to be mixed together. Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup. I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason. Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push. No, not really. Um yes. Zerg could be so greedy behind a roach waren and a few spores.
The stephano maxout would be pretty much unstoppable without immortals lol
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