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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
July 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#921
On July 23 2013 19:44 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:


listen to this instead of the heartbreak song on GOM.

On July 23 2013 19:41 opterown wrote:
i sort of hope soulkey takes this since maru stands a better chance against soulkey imo


Really? I think Maru can beat INnoVation in a TvT. Soulkey is best vT iirc.

maru put a damn solid fight against soulkey only just last season

I know, but I think SK leveled up. INnoVation's TvT is not his best, and I think he can lose that more easily tbh.
The Bomber boy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 10:46:15
July 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#922
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege Tanks for no reason, making Bio a much superior overall playstyle.

So long as Bio continues to be the style that performs the best at the top level the pros will keep sticking with it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#923
On July 23 2013 19:43 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:38 Lunareste wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:36 Msr wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 sashkata wrote:
Artosis predict 3:1 for Symbol. Maru wins 3:1 :D


that is because people who understand the game know how much better symbol is. Just didnt workout today.


I dunno man, I've always felt that Symbol was riding on the back of patchzerg and roach nydus play.

I mean I think he's solid as fuck, but I've never seen that spark in him that is so clear to me when I watch someone like Soulkey play.

Maru played like a beast today though, no doubt about it.

So much this.

Symbol never gives off that "perfect" vibe that a lot of other Zergs do. And the number of fanboys on TL forums overhyping him last year, despite being THE winfestor zerg, hurt my heart beyond recovery.


Yeah we get now calm down xD. You're the same guy who said "any prediction on symbol is idiotic"
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#924
On July 23 2013 19:40 Qwerty85 wrote:
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On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


Can we leave such discussion to twitch chat?
Terrans are using units in their arsenal that actually win them games, same as protoss or zerg.

I'm pretty sure he's not arguing players shouldn't play to win, he's only wishing thors and bc's were more relevant.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
July 23 2013 10:45 GMT
#925
On July 23 2013 19:43 Ryps wrote:
Didnt Artosis predict Soulkey and Innovation to advance ?


How would that work? They're playing each other.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#926
On July 23 2013 19:45 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:44 opterown wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6HQSh9w-kY

listen to this instead of the heartbreak song on GOM.

On July 23 2013 19:41 opterown wrote:
i sort of hope soulkey takes this since maru stands a better chance against soulkey imo


Really? I think Maru can beat INnoVation in a TvT. Soulkey is best vT iirc.

maru put a damn solid fight against soulkey only just last season

I know, but I think SK leveled up. INnoVation's TvT is not his best, and I think he can lose that more easily tbh.

maru has leveled up too ;p maru probably has a decent shot either way, i'd say about 30-40% chance?
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Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
July 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#927
On July 23 2013 19:43 Wintex wrote:

wowowowo thank you for showing me that
Sc2 always got your back
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
July 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#928
On July 23 2013 19:45 mycro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:43 Ryps wrote:
Didnt Artosis predict Soulkey and Innovation to advance ?


How would that work? They're playing each other.

My bad symbol
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
July 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#929
On July 23 2013 19:45 Denar wrote:
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On July 23 2013 19:41 Wintex wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6HQSh9w-kY


listen to this instead of the heartbreak song on GOM.



kpop boys band is a line I am not ready to cross... (except maybe for one or 2 Shinee songs when no-one's looking)

DUDE denar that song is so vogue-y it's fucking fantastic. (Shinee has great songs, Lucifer is siiiick.)

The Bomber boy
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#930
On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.

Even in TvT they wanted to introduce a "Siege Tank breaker". So much hate for the unit.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 10:47:13
July 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#931
On July 23 2013 19:45 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:44 hifriend wrote:
song name?

Ice on the dune -Empire of the sun
Thats on goms end at least

My shazam identified it as concert pitch (by empire of the sun) and it sounds the same.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#932
On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.


Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Lock0n
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom184 Posts
July 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#933
Come on inno, kick the last filthy Zerg out
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 10:48:31
July 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#934
On July 23 2013 19:44 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:41 bo1b wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:38 Lunareste wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:36 Msr wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 sashkata wrote:
Artosis predict 3:1 for Symbol. Maru wins 3:1 :D


that is because people who understand the game know how much better symbol is. Just didnt workout today.


I dunno man, I've always felt that Symbol was riding on the back of patchzerg and roach nydus play.

I mean I think he's solid as fuck, but I've never seen that spark in him that is so clear to me when I watch someone like Soulkey play.

Maru played like a beast today though, no doubt about it.

If you watched him during his allkill run, right before he was reverse swept by seed he looked better then any player in the world by a massive margin. Perfect macro, didn't just broodlord infestor, excellent creep spread, and always seemed to make the right choices.



Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:41 Ana_ wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:38 Lunareste wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:36 Msr wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 sashkata wrote:
Artosis predict 3:1 for Symbol. Maru wins 3:1 :D


that is because people who understand the game know how much better symbol is. Just didnt workout today.


I dunno man, I've always felt that Symbol was riding on the back of patchzerg and roach nydus play.

I mean I think he's solid as fuck, but I've never seen that spark in him that is so clear to me when I watch someone like Soulkey play.

Maru played like a beast today though, no doubt about it.


I think it is unfair to call symbol patchzerg at this point. Jut look at his results in Hots. He is most consistant player there is, but he always falls short.


Oh I don't think that he really is. I've been watching Symbol since he first emerged in the SC2 scene, and like I said he's solid and consistent, but I feel like his play is fairly one dimensional.

Pre seed loss he was on the map and aggressive, he used pretty much every unit available and was iirc the only zerg that actually used neural parasite in games. Post seed loss it was nothing but broodlord infestor.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
July 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#935
On July 23 2013 19:46 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:45 bo1b wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:44 hifriend wrote:
song name?

Ice on the dune -Empire of the sun
Thats on goms end at least

My shazam identified it as concert pitch (by empire of the sun) and it sounds the same.

Thanks
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
July 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#936
--- Nuked ---
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
July 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#937
On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.


Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.


No, not really.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 23 2013 10:47 GMT
#938
On July 23 2013 19:46 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:45 bo1b wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:44 hifriend wrote:
song name?

Ice on the dune -Empire of the sun
Thats on goms end at least

My shazam identified it as concert pitch (by empire of the sun) and it sounds the same.

Wait thats it yeh.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 10:48:13
July 23 2013 10:48 GMT
#939
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.

If you're playing mech, a slight misplay might cost you the game, and I mean really damn slight.

In TvT mech vs bio, bio terran is expected to transition to sky terran eventually, but mech vs bio TvT was really rare these days(for some obvious reasons), although we could expect more of that good stuff in the nearby future.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51640 Posts
July 23 2013 10:48 GMT
#940
jeez isnt that some interviewer bias
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