EPTOn July 20 2013 22:11 ysjayc wrote:
whats the song right now plz
?
whats the song right now plz
??? lol
[DreamHack] Valencia Day 2 2013 - Page 35
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babobbyj
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Ventris
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goody153
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On July 20 2013 22:13 bo1b wrote: I dunno if thats the best way to emphasise good mechanics... it can be a good way .. you see he shows very good micro when watching his games yet he does not use control groups .. means he has insanely efficient apm .. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32737 Posts
HyuN 2-1 LucifroN YugiOh 2-0 Goswser elfi 1-2 StarDust JYP 1-2 Jaedong | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote: Zerg has plenty of microable units. - Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean). - Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly. - Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights. I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier. Don't forget dat swarm host burrow micro. Totally insane. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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goody153
44020 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:09 rshawer wrote: JYP's pvz is actually pretty bad in hots, so there is a chance for Jaedong i really hope your right .. no matter who hes beaten in JvP matchup he still looks shaky | ||
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ysjayc
China70 Posts
coool thanks a lot | ||
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goody153
44020 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:16 ACrow wrote: Don't forget dat swarm host burrow micro. Totally insane. SH burrow-unborrow micro feels like siege tank siege-unsiege | ||
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Prince_Stranger
Kazakhstan762 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote: Zerg has plenty of microable units. - Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean). - Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly. - Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights. I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier. Yeah, agree many units microable, but I mean just something more impressive like forcefields, marine micro, blink stalker, muta stack in bw, fast drop something like this. | ||
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rshawer
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:16 ACrow wrote: Don't forget dat swarm host burrow micro. Totally insane. I'm not sure if your comment is sarcastic. SH micro is not impressive when taken in isolation. SH burrow micro does take attention, but if that is all you do at that point, then obviously it is not impressive from a mechanics stand point, but if it is addition to doing what would stretch the limits of an ordinary progamer, then yes it is impressive that he could also do that. The same could be said for picking up immortals in a warp prism when fighting roaches, yet it is considered impressive because it is implied that the player should not be forsaking macro and other micro while doing it. | ||
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Ventris
Germany1226 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:19 Prince_Stranger wrote: Yeah, agree many units microable, but I mean just something more impressive like forcefields, marine micro, blink stalker, muta stack in bw, fast drop something like this. Theres a ton of micro for zergs lol, and any tvz that gets to muta ling bling vs bio mine displays this pretty heavily. You are right that a lot of the micro a zerg does in sc2 isn't visually impressive, but the notion that zergs don't micro is silly. On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote: I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier. I hate posts like this | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
(1500) elfi 0-0 StarDust (1623) Interesting, I thought it would be more even. On July 20 2013 22:26 AlternativeEgo wrote: elfi HotS PvP isn't the same as it was in WoL. Welmu is the HotS elfi. ^^ Holy crap, you weren't kidding. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
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PhoenixVoid
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:19 Prince_Stranger wrote: Yeah, agree many units microable, but I mean just something more impressive like forcefields, marine micro, blink stalker, muta stack in bw, fast drop something like this. I would say that ling-baneling micro is of the same type as what you list. I would say that as a rule zerg micro to a large extent is about doing a lot of medium-difficulty things in lots of different places, instead of doing one very hard thing and ignoring everything else. Controlling mutas for the most part is easy if that is all you do, but when you can still manage to micro your mutas in two groups while fighting with another group somewhere else and splitting of some units to deal with a drop, then that is what separates progamers. | ||
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Enchanted
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On July 20 2013 22:28 Enchanted wrote: Is it on in 2 minutes or an hour ? According to Liquipedia, an hour. | ||
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