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babobbyj
Profile Joined June 2013
636 Posts
July 20 2013 13:15 GMT
#681
On July 20 2013 22:11 ysjayc wrote:
whats the song right now plz ?


?? lol
Bad Ass Bobby Johnson, a.k.a. Valiante
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
July 20 2013 13:16 GMT
#682
Lol, the lyrics of that song :D
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
July 20 2013 13:16 GMT
#683
On July 20 2013 22:13 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:10 finkelboy wrote:
JD's mechanics? He doesn't use control groups. That's how good he is.

I dunno if thats the best way to emphasise good mechanics...


it can be a good way .. you see he shows very good micro when watching his games yet he does not use control groups .. means he has insanely efficient apm ..
this is a quote
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
July 20 2013 13:16 GMT
#684
Thinking this is how Ro8 will progress

HyuN 2-1 LucifroN
YugiOh 2-0 Goswser
elfi 1-2 StarDust
JYP 1-2 Jaedong
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 20 2013 13:16 GMT
#685
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:08 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I am curious what if zerg will have more microable units =). Jaedong will roll everyone.

Zerg has plenty of microable units.

- Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean).
- Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly.
- Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights.

I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier.

Don't forget dat swarm host burrow micro. Totally insane.
Get off my lawn, young punks
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 20 2013 13:17 GMT
#686
Aqua has to be the most classy band on the planet.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
July 20 2013 13:18 GMT
#687
On July 20 2013 22:09 rshawer wrote:
JYP's pvz is actually pretty bad in hots, so there is a chance for Jaedong


i really hope your right .. no matter who hes beaten in JvP matchup he still looks shaky
this is a quote
ysjayc
Profile Joined December 2010
China70 Posts
July 20 2013 13:18 GMT
#688
On July 20 2013 22:15 babobbyj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:11 ysjayc wrote:
whats the song right now plz ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfj5qa1GpCQ ?? lol



coool thanks a lot
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
July 20 2013 13:19 GMT
#689
On July 20 2013 22:16 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote:
On July 20 2013 22:08 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I am curious what if zerg will have more microable units =). Jaedong will roll everyone.

Zerg has plenty of microable units.

- Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean).
- Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly.
- Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights.

I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier.

Don't forget dat swarm host burrow micro. Totally insane.



SH burrow-unborrow micro feels like siege tank siege-unsiege
this is a quote
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 13:20:26
July 20 2013 13:19 GMT
#690
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:08 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I am curious what if zerg will have more microable units =). Jaedong will roll everyone.

Zerg has plenty of microable units.

- Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean).
- Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly.
- Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights.

I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier.

Yeah, agree many units microable, but I mean just something more impressive like forcefields, marine micro, blink stalker, muta stack in bw, fast drop something like this.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
rshawer
Profile Joined December 2012
178 Posts
July 20 2013 13:21 GMT
#691
I think Jaedong can beat JYP, stardust, I don't think so
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 20 2013 13:21 GMT
#692
On July 20 2013 22:16 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote:
On July 20 2013 22:08 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I am curious what if zerg will have more microable units =). Jaedong will roll everyone.

Zerg has plenty of microable units.

- Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean).
- Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly.
- Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights.

I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier.

Don't forget dat swarm host burrow micro. Totally insane.

I'm not sure if your comment is sarcastic. SH micro is not impressive when taken in isolation. SH burrow micro does take attention, but if that is all you do at that point, then obviously it is not impressive from a mechanics stand point, but if it is addition to doing what would stretch the limits of an ordinary progamer, then yes it is impressive that he could also do that. The same could be said for picking up immortals in a warp prism when fighting roaches, yet it is considered impressive because it is implied that the player should not be forsaking macro and other micro while doing it.
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
July 20 2013 13:23 GMT
#693
Man, that Eurodance <3 <3
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 13:27:09
July 20 2013 13:24 GMT
#694
On July 20 2013 22:19 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote:
On July 20 2013 22:08 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I am curious what if zerg will have more microable units =). Jaedong will roll everyone.

Zerg has plenty of microable units.

- Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean).
- Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly.
- Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights.

I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier.

Yeah, agree many units microable, but I mean just something more impressive like forcefields, marine micro, blink stalker, muta stack in bw, fast drop something like this.

Theres a ton of micro for zergs lol, and any tvz that gets to muta ling bling vs bio mine displays this pretty heavily. You are right that a lot of the micro a zerg does in sc2 isn't visually impressive, but the notion that zergs don't micro is silly.

On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:08 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I am curious what if zerg will have more microable units =). Jaedong will roll everyone.


I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier.

I hate posts like this
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 13:29:10
July 20 2013 13:24 GMT
#695
I was wondering what Elefitaja's chances against Stardust were, so here it is:

        (1500) elfi  0-0  StarDust (1623)    
---------------------------------------------
19.85% 2-0 0-2 30.75%
22.01% 2-1 1-2 27.40%
---------------------------------------------
41.86% 58.14%

Median outcome: elfi 1-2 StarDust
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Interesting, I thought it would be more even.

On July 20 2013 22:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:
elfi HotS PvP isn't the same as it was in WoL. Welmu is the HotS elfi. ^^

Holy crap, you weren't kidding.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 20 2013 13:26 GMT
#696
elfi HotS PvP isn't the same as it was in WoL. Welmu is the HotS elfi. ^^
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
July 20 2013 13:26 GMT
#697
Will the European Terran playing on his homeland continue the streak of defeating a top-tier Korean?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
July 20 2013 13:28 GMT
#698
On July 20 2013 22:19 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:14 rasnj wrote:
On July 20 2013 22:08 Prince_Stranger wrote:
I am curious what if zerg will have more microable units =). Jaedong will roll everyone.

Zerg has plenty of microable units.

- Lings, banelings, mutas, infestors are all highly microable. Stephano made a large part of his zvt success on microing lings better than any other zerg (at least foreigner, and almost any Korean).
- Roaches, hydras, corruptors and bls are somewhat microable but do well with a-move. However pullling back, burrowing and target firing can make a huge difference. In addition the "micro" part of them is usually positioning them well and flanking properly.
- Ultras become so much better when microed in large fights.

I think SH is the only unit to which your complaint really applies. It might be true that zerg units do better than other races when not microed which can have a huge impact in lower leagues, but at the pro-level you need micro even if you are zerg and while the micro may be different from what your favorite race does that does not mean that it is a lesser kind of micro or easier.

Yeah, agree many units microable, but I mean just something more impressive like forcefields, marine micro, blink stalker, muta stack in bw, fast drop something like this.

I would say that ling-baneling micro is of the same type as what you list. I would say that as a rule zerg micro to a large extent is about doing a lot of medium-difficulty things in lots of different places, instead of doing one very hard thing and ignoring everything else. Controlling mutas for the most part is easy if that is all you do, but when you can still manage to micro your mutas in two groups while fighting with another group somewhere else and splitting of some units to deal with a drop, then that is what separates progamers.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
July 20 2013 13:28 GMT
#699
Is it on in 2 minutes or an hour ?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 20 2013 13:30 GMT
#700
On July 20 2013 22:28 Enchanted wrote:
Is it on in 2 minutes or an hour ?

According to Liquipedia, an hour.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
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