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On July 20 2013 01:18 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:16 Boucot wrote:On July 20 2013 01:12 Za7oX wrote:On July 20 2013 01:09 Boucot wrote:
Dayshi's TvP is baaaad T_T Patch terran. Lol, no. His other matchups are still very good but he's scared by Protoss right now. Fortunately there are not many of them in Valencia. Every terran are scared of protoss :D
Remember, they're just as scared of you, as you are of them.
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Oh, MiNiMaTh 2-0 StarNaN, good good good !
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On July 20 2013 01:18 Zheryn wrote:
One of the casters on the JD stream is surprised when monchi doesn't transfer probes when he's at 16 in his main, had to mute the stream.
Name of the caster?
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SaltTheWound and Poyo are so careful, this game is never ending.
And infestor-broodlord, what is this ?? WoL ?
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On July 20 2013 01:17 robson1 wrote:
I love how zergs are all about patch terrans now. Like the situation pre-hellbatnerf was ANYTHING like WoL post queen patch.
Indeed. Only matchup the hellbat was borderline broken in was TvT, otherwise it wasn't too bad to just deal with.
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a lot of misreported results on liquipedia...
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On July 20 2013 01:19 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:18 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On July 20 2013 01:16 Boucot wrote:On July 20 2013 01:12 Za7oX wrote:On July 20 2013 01:09 Boucot wrote:
Dayshi's TvP is baaaad T_T Patch terran. Lol, no. His other matchups are still very good but he's scared by Protoss right now. Fortunately there are not many of them in Valencia. Every terran are scared of protoss :D Remember, they're just as scared of you, as you are of them.
Yeah they say the same about humans and bears but I don't believe them.
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On July 20 2013 01:19 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:15 FeyFey wrote:On July 20 2013 01:06 Lorch wrote:On July 20 2013 01:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
Bunny was not to aggressive imo, just doesn't have the 500 split APM the krean Terrans have to be able to win against a-move Roach/Ling/Bling. Are we watching the same game? Apparently not, if anything zerg needs those 500 apm to be played properly, but I guess you prefer to stick to your limited view, because you know splitting and target firing is such a hard skill to practice especialaly when you have the easiest makro in the game. Also you make it sound like apm is something you jsut have or you don't, when it's foreign terrans unwillingness to practice as hard as koreans that makes them so much worse, also ladder is such a terrible place to practice properly... Zerg macro isn't that easy, I mean of course the basics are so easy that your apm are usually higher as other races. But with creep spread and grouping units in production you can still find ways to macro constantly. And maybe you run out of Larva if your inject rate falls below 60%. But you are right Terran have it quiet tough with the old style of unit production structures and construction. And then their in battle micro can be so unforgiving. ;P Erm I meant the other way around, terran easy makro, zerg harder. Terran is just so easy, all you need is hit 4 to 6 control groups depending on whether you hotkey each cc individually and not and hit your keys. The micro may be "hard" but it requires little to no thought and is very easy to learn/practice. Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:14 Luolis wrote:On July 20 2013 01:06 Lorch wrote:On July 20 2013 01:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
Bunny was not to aggressive imo, just doesn't have the 500 split APM the krean Terrans have to be able to win against a-move Roach/Ling/Bling. Are we watching the same game? Apparently not, if anything zerg needs those 500 apm to be played properly, but I guess you prefer to stick to your limited view, because you know splitting and target firing is such a hard skill to practice especialaly when you have the easiest makro in the game. Also you make it sound like apm is something you jsut have or you don't, when it's foreign terrans unwillingness to practice as hard as koreans that makes them so much worse, also ladder is such a terrible place to practice properly... *cough* Protoss *cough* While P and T production is very similiar (only real difference is warpgate which is kind off the same thing just that you get what you pay for) but the fact that you have to go to a pylon to warp shit in while you can look whereever you want and just tap your control group with T makes it easier in my eyes, I don't see how either muling/scaning or chrono boosting require much of anything at all.
Yes but you have to take to account terran has to be producing stuff constantly. Protoss meanwhile can let minerals bank and warp alot of stuff in.
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On July 20 2013 01:18 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:15 FeyFey wrote:On July 20 2013 01:06 Lorch wrote:On July 20 2013 01:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
Bunny was not to aggressive imo, just doesn't have the 500 split APM the krean Terrans have to be able to win against a-move Roach/Ling/Bling. Are we watching the same game? Apparently not, if anything zerg needs those 500 apm to be played properly, but I guess you prefer to stick to your limited view, because you know splitting and target firing is such a hard skill to practice especialaly when you have the easiest makro in the game. Also you make it sound like apm is something you jsut have or you don't, when it's foreign terrans unwillingness to practice as hard as koreans that makes them so much worse, also ladder is such a terrible place to practice properly... Zerg macro isn't that easy, I mean of course the basics are so easy that your apm are usually higher as other races. But with creep spread and grouping units in production you can still find ways to macro constantly. And maybe you run out of Larva if your inject rate falls below 60%. But you are right Terran have it quiet tough with the old style of unit production structures and construction. And then their in battle micro can be so unforgiving. ;P I don't know where the myth came that Zerg and Protoss can just a move their armies into Terran. For example if you a move roach bane into a MMMM army then your lings will get fucked by widow mines, all your banes will hit marauders and the roaches will clump and get easily cleaned up.
It's quite simple, no matter which race you play the other race is always stupid. Zerg/toss still hate Terran for the period at the beginning of SC2 where Terrans won everything. Oh and all Terrans are cheesers ofc. Protoss is only a huge Deathball or a stupid all-inner, and Zerg only needs 40 apm because you can a-move everything down. Did i mention all the "myth"?
No seriously, its probably because a lot of people just rant and rage about other races when they loose instead of trying to figure out if they fucked up somewhere.
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Love JD, but The Dong got to be the worse nickname
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On July 20 2013 01:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:19 Heartland wrote:On July 20 2013 01:18 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On July 20 2013 01:16 Boucot wrote:On July 20 2013 01:12 Za7oX wrote:On July 20 2013 01:09 Boucot wrote:
Dayshi's TvP is baaaad T_T Patch terran. Lol, no. His other matchups are still very good but he's scared by Protoss right now. Fortunately there are not many of them in Valencia. Every terran are scared of protoss :D Remember, they're just as scared of you, as you are of them. Yeah they say the same about humans and bears but I don't believe them.
Well, if you'd just go and talk to some humans I am sure you'd find them quite sociable and just as interested in picnic baskets as you are.
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all them JD fans.... rofl
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Stephano-Goswser starting on Millenium TV 
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On July 20 2013 01:21 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:19 Lorch wrote:On July 20 2013 01:15 FeyFey wrote:On July 20 2013 01:06 Lorch wrote:On July 20 2013 01:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
Bunny was not to aggressive imo, just doesn't have the 500 split APM the krean Terrans have to be able to win against a-move Roach/Ling/Bling. Are we watching the same game? Apparently not, if anything zerg needs those 500 apm to be played properly, but I guess you prefer to stick to your limited view, because you know splitting and target firing is such a hard skill to practice especialaly when you have the easiest makro in the game. Also you make it sound like apm is something you jsut have or you don't, when it's foreign terrans unwillingness to practice as hard as koreans that makes them so much worse, also ladder is such a terrible place to practice properly... Zerg macro isn't that easy, I mean of course the basics are so easy that your apm are usually higher as other races. But with creep spread and grouping units in production you can still find ways to macro constantly. And maybe you run out of Larva if your inject rate falls below 60%. But you are right Terran have it quiet tough with the old style of unit production structures and construction. And then their in battle micro can be so unforgiving. ;P Erm I meant the other way around, terran easy makro, zerg harder. Terran is just so easy, all you need is hit 4 to 6 control groups depending on whether you hotkey each cc individually and not and hit your keys. The micro may be "hard" but it requires little to no thought and is very easy to learn/practice. On July 20 2013 01:14 Luolis wrote:On July 20 2013 01:06 Lorch wrote:On July 20 2013 01:04 CruelZeratul wrote:
Bunny was not to aggressive imo, just doesn't have the 500 split APM the krean Terrans have to be able to win against a-move Roach/Ling/Bling. Are we watching the same game? Apparently not, if anything zerg needs those 500 apm to be played properly, but I guess you prefer to stick to your limited view, because you know splitting and target firing is such a hard skill to practice especialaly when you have the easiest makro in the game. Also you make it sound like apm is something you jsut have or you don't, when it's foreign terrans unwillingness to practice as hard as koreans that makes them so much worse, also ladder is such a terrible place to practice properly... *cough* Protoss *cough* While P and T production is very similiar (only real difference is warpgate which is kind off the same thing just that you get what you pay for) but the fact that you have to go to a pylon to warp shit in while you can look whereever you want and just tap your control group with T makes it easier in my eyes, I don't see how either muling/scaning or chrono boosting require much of anything at all. Yes but you have to take to account terran has to be producing stuff constantly. Protoss meanwhile can let minerals bank and warp alot of stuff in.
You lose production time by not producing units, just like Terran. So Protoss should really be trying to hit their warp-ins when they come up unless they're holding them for a specific purpose (drop defense, HTs, etc.)
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On July 20 2013 01:19 Lorch wrote:
While P and T production is very similiar (only real difference is warpgate which is kind off the same thing just that you get what you pay for) but the fact that you have to go to a pylon to warp shit in while you can look whereever you want and just tap your control group with T makes it easier in my eyes, I don't see how either muling/scaning or chrono boosting require much of anything at all.
i completly disagree with this
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On July 20 2013 01:20 Emzeeshady wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 01:19 Heartland wrote:On July 20 2013 01:18 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On July 20 2013 01:16 Boucot wrote:On July 20 2013 01:12 Za7oX wrote:On July 20 2013 01:09 Boucot wrote:
Dayshi's TvP is baaaad T_T Patch terran. Lol, no. His other matchups are still very good but he's scared by Protoss right now. Fortunately there are not many of them in Valencia. Every terran are scared of protoss :D Remember, they're just as scared of you, as you are of them. idk as a player the game feels like this right now... Protoss > Terran > Zerg > Protoss
I don't think Terran is performing particurally well against Zerg lately either.
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Anyway of downloading replays?
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is there no League or dota 2 played at this event?
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EPT
