EPT[DreamHack] Valencia Day 1 2013 - Page 30
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Sevre
Ireland619 Posts
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:11 BlackCompany wrote: This is one of this days where i am wondering what the fuck is happening in the games, Monchi just decided it was a good idea to try to counter 10 ultras with 30 zealots in a choke -_- A choke and Blinding Clouds  | ||
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gTank
Austria2666 Posts
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Luolis
Finland7194 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:06 Lorch wrote: Are we watching the same game? Apparently not, if anything zerg needs those 500 apm to be played properly, but I guess you prefer to stick to your limited view, because you know splitting and target firing is such a hard skill to practice especialaly when you have the easiest makro in the game. Also you make it sound like apm is something you jsut have or you don't, when it's foreign terrans unwillingness to practice as hard as koreans that makes them so much worse, also ladder is such a terrible place to practice properly... *cough* Protoss *cough* | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:06 Lorch wrote: Are we watching the same game? Apparently not, if anything zerg needs those 500 apm to be played properly, but I guess you prefer to stick to your limited view, because you know splitting and target firing is such a hard skill to practice especialaly when you have the easiest makro in the game. Also you make it sound like apm is something you jsut have or you don't, when it's foreign terrans unwillingness to practice as hard as koreans that makes them so much worse, also ladder is such a terrible place to practice properly... Zerg macro isn't that easy, I mean of course the basics are so easy that your apm are usually higher as other races. But with creep spread and grouping units in production you can still find ways to macro constantly. And maybe you run out of Larva if your inject rate falls below 60%. But you are right Terran have it quiet tough with the old style of unit production structures and construction. And then their in battle micro can be so unforgiving. ;P | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
Ah ye, that didn't really help either^^ | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:14 Emzeeshady wrote: I like how Bunny complained about being called a Hellbat abuser but he has basically lost everything since the Hellbat nerf :D I feel a sense of justice Yeah his loss to a a top korean zerg is pretty indicative of his total failure as a terran without heellbats | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
Lol, no. His other matchups are still very good but he's scared by Protoss right now. Fortunately there are not many of them in Valencia. | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
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Luolis
Finland7194 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:15 robson1 wrote: Yeah his loss to a a top korean zerg is pretty indicative of his total failure as a terran without heellbats He did lose to Marinelord. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:16 robson1 wrote: soooooooooo much downtime. Jaedong and Wax yo http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SchAmToo | ||
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robson1
3632 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
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robson1
3632 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:17 AlternativeEgo wrote: Jaedong and Wax yo http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/SchAmToo Thx man. | ||
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Dandy_Moustachu
France422 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:16 Boucot wrote: Lol, no. His other matchups are still very good but he's scared by Protoss right now. Fortunately there are not many of them in Valencia. Every terran are scared of protoss :D | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3710 Posts
On July 20 2013 01:15 FeyFey wrote: Zerg macro isn't that easy, I mean of course the basics are so easy that your apm are usually higher as other races. But with creep spread and grouping units in production you can still find ways to macro constantly. And maybe you run out of Larva if your inject rate falls below 60%. But you are right Terran have it quiet tough with the old style of unit production structures and construction. And then their in battle micro can be so unforgiving. ;P Erm I meant the other way around, terran easy makro, zerg harder. Terran is just so easy, all you need is hit 4 to 6 control groups depending on whether you hotkey each cc individually and not and hit your keys. The micro may be "hard" but it requires little to no thought and is very easy to learn/practice. While P and T production is very similiar (only real difference is warpgate which is kind off the same thing just that you get what you pay for) but the fact that you have to go to a pylon to warp shit in while you can look whereever you want and just tap your control group with T makes it easier in my eyes, I don't see how either muling/scaning or chrono boosting require much of anything at all. | ||
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