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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#241
On July 16 2013 18:50 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:48 Rammstorm wrote:
Happens for not GG'ing in game 1 and trying to be annoying.


He still coulda won since Soulkey was barely mining.

Please, please, please stop listening to what's been spouted ever since the start of WoL in that comebacks are impossible. They're not. If you want everyone to GG after losing a single unit like Idra does then fair enough, but people are going to continue to play until they feel they cannot win. Let them play it out.

God knows how some of you would feel after watching Fantasy in BW, if anything it made me his fan.

Especially since parting has recovered in similar situations not that long ago, in a pretty famous group of death.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
July 16 2013 09:52 GMT
#242
The difference was that in the game vs Life, he went 10pool speed, so Parting had time to cancel his nexus. Also, his initial building placement was better so he was able to fully wall much faster.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#243
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 16 2013 09:53 GMT
#244
On July 16 2013 18:52 Teoita wrote:
The difference was that in the game vs Life, he went 10pool speed, so Parting had time to cancel his nexus. Also, his initial building placement was better so he was able to fully wall much faster.

Of course, but it's still not like a mistake couldn't happen. Its possible that soulkey would make a mistake or something and parting could make a comeback, not likely but still possible.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
July 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#245
Great series. Parting with some amazing control but soulkey is just too strong.
JD is BONJWA!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#246
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
July 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#247
LOL
[Woongjin Stars]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 16 2013 09:54 GMT
#248
On July 16 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.

You'd need some speed dt vultures
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
July 16 2013 09:55 GMT
#249
Much downtime expected? I'm debating watching the next set before bed. Sadly, I won't have time to watch First v Hyvaa.
KT best KT ~ 2014
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
July 16 2013 09:55 GMT
#250
On July 16 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.


I'd do this but give them an insane burrow/unburrow timing. Atleast they'd die then.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
July 16 2013 09:55 GMT
#251
On July 16 2013 18:54 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.

You'd need some speed dt vultures


Imagine zergs with speed swarmhosts kiting my observer sight range. Please never let that happen
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1351 Posts
July 16 2013 09:56 GMT
#252
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


No need to increase the movement speed, but the health points need to be reduced dramatically. It´s like storms bounce off from them.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 16 2013 09:56 GMT
#253
Flash and Bbyong are playing for 3rd place in their group and an extra 100 WCS points, so this match isn't entirely worthless. Though it's unlikely either of them will make top 16 at this point, Flash still could and this 100 would certainly help close that gap a bit.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
July 16 2013 09:56 GMT
#254
Am i right in thinking that Bbyong and Flash are playing for nothing? are they both eliminated now?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 16 2013 09:57 GMT
#255
On July 16 2013 18:56 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Am i right in thinking that Bbyong and Flash are playing for nothing? are they both eliminated now?

Yes Flash & Bbyong are both eliminated.
Moderatorlickypiddy
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 16 2013 09:57 GMT
#256
On July 16 2013 18:56 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Am i right in thinking that Bbyong and Flash are playing for nothing? are they both eliminated now?


WCS points
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 16 2013 09:57 GMT
#257
On July 16 2013 18:55 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:54 bo1b wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.

You'd need some speed dt vultures


Imagine zergs with speed swarmhosts kiting my observer sight range. Please never let that happen

Really wouldn't be too bad if the locusts weren't up 100% of the time tbh. That almost no risk factor is really off putting.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
July 16 2013 09:58 GMT
#258
On July 16 2013 18:54 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.

You'd need some speed dt vultures


That sounds fair

#savelotv
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 09:59:28
July 16 2013 09:58 GMT
#259
On July 16 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.

Well speed Hydras have the same speed as workers, they are not that fast. Anyway, maybe 140 HP would be enough, but I don't know, even now when they are caught you can lose a lot of them, and they cost a lot, they have the same HP as Siege Tanks, as they are similar kind of units.
On July 16 2013 18:55 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 18:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:53 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 16 2013 18:50 Keeemy wrote:
GJ Soulkey. PartinG played well in game1, just should've gotten Voids.

Also, I kinda feel that SHs have too much HP.


They should have sentry HP.

Trust me, I would reduce their size, make them fast as Stalkers or Speed Hydras, and reduce their HP to 100, it would fit Zerg much better.


Oh god no, they'd never be caught.


I'd do this but give them an insane burrow/unburrow timing. Atleast they'd die then.

Yes, I was thinking maybe ~5 sec burrow time.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-16 10:01:23
July 16 2013 10:00 GMT
#260
Well it's way way way harder to close in and get shots off on a swarm host compared to a siege tank.

Really, blizzard should just get their shit together and think hard and long about free units, how they ruined wol and what lessons can be learnt from that.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
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