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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#461
On July 11 2013 19:23 krutopatkin wrote:
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On July 11 2013 19:22 Douillos wrote:
I still don't understand how come people get away with so much balance whining nowadays.

Mods are watching dota


hahahaha
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#462
On July 11 2013 19:24 -KG- wrote:
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On July 11 2013 19:17 krutopatkin wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:16 -KG- wrote:
So sad to watch games like that. Parting delays tech, snipes 4th without losses, SH's come out, Parting gets obliviated.

I wish all protoss players would switch to playing Zerg until something is done, just to make a statement :D

Are you seriously complaining about imbalance


Late game SH balance and viewer entertainment, definitely.

Maybe in your opinion. I think swarm hosts are some of the most entertaining units in the game.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#463
On July 11 2013 19:24 Fusilero wrote:
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On July 11 2013 19:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Hopefully Bomber whipped something together in the past 3hrs >____>

Hellbat drops


Hmmm that's just crazy enough to work!
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eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#464
On July 11 2013 19:23 krutopatkin wrote:
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On July 11 2013 19:22 Douillos wrote:
I still don't understand how come people get away with so much balance whining nowadays.

Mods are watching dota


It is hilarious, like the good old times :D Favorite player/race loses - immediately something is OP or needs to get buffed
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#465
On July 11 2013 19:10 NarutO wrote:
Swarmhosts are such a snorefest

Really? I think SH PvZ is 10x cooler than roach/corruptor shit
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11077 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#466
Mn. Sleep or see if TvT has changed.

Is TvT better?
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
MWY
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany284 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#467
On July 11 2013 19:23 Qwerty85 wrote:
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On July 11 2013 19:19 Sabu113 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:17 -Celestial- wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:14 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How much health do SH have? I remember lurkers being killed by 2 storms back in bw, not needing to even chain it.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Swarm_Host

160 HP with 1 Armour base.

Psi storm is 80 damage over 4 seconds and zerg regen is enough to make it need three storms I believe even perfectly chained. Plus storms are weaker than in BW.


Storms are criminally weak. Honestly if we're getting on the buff buff mantra then they should at least restore the most dodgeable and hardest to field spell to 120. Still leaves swarm hosts respectably tough for the price.


Have you considered how TvP would look at all?


Storm drops could be almost as deadly as hellbat drops with this :D
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 11 2013 10:25 GMT
#468
On July 11 2013 19:24 Douillos wrote:
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On July 11 2013 19:23 Elite_ wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:22 Douillos wrote:
I still don't understand how come people get away with so much balance whining nowadays.

It's because mods aren't going to temp ban half of the thread.


Im gonna start buying TL+ to all balance whiners so they can go mess around in TL + forums. :D

You must be rich.
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#469
I'm so split for Bomber vs Flash. DOn't know who to cheer for :/
Dating thread on TL LUL
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 10:26:33
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#470
Not sure why people are talking about buffing storm to deal with SHs... nerfing SH health seems more appropriate, but even that doesn't seem very appropriate because PvZ balance seems okay. I agree with the people that said Parting's composition was poor, it's just a shame that his micro-heavy and entertaining blink stalker + Colossus + HT style is weak and the boring-as-fuck mass voidray is good against Symbol's style.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#471
On July 11 2013 19:23 NarutO wrote:
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On July 11 2013 19:20 krutopatkin wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:19 Sabu113 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:17 -Celestial- wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:14 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How much health do SH have? I remember lurkers being killed by 2 storms back in bw, not needing to even chain it.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Swarm_Host

160 HP with 1 Armour base.

Psi storm is 80 damage over 4 seconds and zerg regen is enough to make it need three storms I believe even perfectly chained. Plus storms are weaker than in BW.


Storms are criminally weak. Honestly if we're getting on the buff buff mantra then they should at least restore the most dodgeable and hardest to field spell to 120. Still leaves swarm hosts respectably tough for the price.

the most dodgeable and hardest to field spell is fungal^


120 damage over 4 seconds? Are you mad? Storm is already a problem to Terran when it cant be nullified by EMP and a problem to roach/hydra or en masse even to Zergs that don't rely on swarmhosts OR once he actually gets to the swarmhosts to storm it deals sick damage and kills swarmhost fast. Saying storm is too weak is just... wow.


Pretty sure he was implying extending it to 6 seconds. Not boosting DPS because that'd be insane (marines would melt in under two seconds flat).
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#472
Damn, Tastosis sure hate Bomber.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#473
Apparently SuNo also thought the patch was live
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Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#474
Bomber Tier 3? What blasphemy!
minhblizzard
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore425 Posts
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#475
On July 11 2013 19:25 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 19:20 minhblizzard wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:20 krutopatkin wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:19 Sabu113 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:17 -Celestial- wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:14 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How much health do SH have? I remember lurkers being killed by 2 storms back in bw, not needing to even chain it.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Swarm_Host

160 HP with 1 Armour base.

Psi storm is 80 damage over 4 seconds and zerg regen is enough to make it need three storms I believe even perfectly chained. Plus storms are weaker than in BW.


Storms are criminally weak. Honestly if we're getting on the buff buff mantra then they should at least restore the most dodgeable and hardest to field spell to 120. Still leaves swarm hosts respectably tough for the price.

the most dodgeable and hardest to field spell is fungal^

What about seeker missile? It is designed to be dodged

Seeker Missile is designed to target your own Medivac which is flown over your opponent's army and splash damage destroys everything.

So fitting when Bomber is playing soon
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
July 11 2013 10:26 GMT
#476
On July 11 2013 19:25 MWY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 19:23 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:19 Sabu113 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:17 -Celestial- wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:14 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How much health do SH have? I remember lurkers being killed by 2 storms back in bw, not needing to even chain it.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Swarm_Host

160 HP with 1 Armour base.

Psi storm is 80 damage over 4 seconds and zerg regen is enough to make it need three storms I believe even perfectly chained. Plus storms are weaker than in BW.


Storms are criminally weak. Honestly if we're getting on the buff buff mantra then they should at least restore the most dodgeable and hardest to field spell to 120. Still leaves swarm hosts respectably tough for the price.


Have you considered how TvP would look at all?


Storm drops could be almost as deadly as hellbat drops with this :D

Storm drops already wipe out most of the mineral line.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 11 2013 10:27 GMT
#477
IT IS FLASH TIME.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 11 2013 10:27 GMT
#478
On July 11 2013 19:25 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 19:10 NarutO wrote:
Swarmhosts are such a snorefest

Really? I think SH PvZ is 10x cooler than roach/corruptor shit


I think PvZ overall is very much enjoyable and the swarmhost game we just saw wasn't terrible, but if it really drags out into a mapsplit scenario, I feel swarmhosts are even more boring and outdragging than broodlord/infestor ;o
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 11 2013 10:27 GMT
#479
what video is Tasteless talking about?
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
July 11 2013 10:27 GMT
#480
On July 11 2013 19:25 MWY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 19:23 Qwerty85 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:19 Sabu113 wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:17 -Celestial- wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:14 xN.07)MaK wrote:
How much health do SH have? I remember lurkers being killed by 2 storms back in bw, not needing to even chain it.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Swarm_Host

160 HP with 1 Armour base.

Psi storm is 80 damage over 4 seconds and zerg regen is enough to make it need three storms I believe even perfectly chained. Plus storms are weaker than in BW.


Storms are criminally weak. Honestly if we're getting on the buff buff mantra then they should at least restore the most dodgeable and hardest to field spell to 120. Still leaves swarm hosts respectably tough for the price.


Have you considered how TvP would look at all?


Storm drops could be almost as deadly as hellbat drops with this :D


Storm drops do a TON of damage, their damage isn't why people don't do them.

People don't do them because they cost 150 gas per Templar. Sticking 600 gas worth of Templar into a squishy Warp Prism is risky. It's much safer to just send in Zealots and keep the Templar back in the army.
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