(Vote): NaNiwa (Vote): Polt (Vote): Extended Series
We all lose. Seriously I'd like to hear someone at MLG actually explain why they think extended series makes sense.
It makes sense because it rewards players who haven't lost when they play players who have. It may not be the best solution, but it's more fair than a system where winning players aren't rewarded at all.
If Naniwa wins the first Bo3 then they could play a 2nd one. Solved. Double elimination=you lose twice you're out so it makes perfect sense.
On July 01 2013 04:10 imareaver3 wrote: For everyone complaining about extended series--since this is double elimination, if it weren't for the extended series rule, Nani would have to win two consecutive Bo3's against Polt to advance, while Polt would only have to win one. Polt gets (and deserves) the advantage no matter what.
You make a good point actually. Polt is still on two lives. He hasn't lost a Bo3 yet.
If it weren't for time constraints, I think the "win 2 BO3's" is a more likely option for making a comeback than the current "you have to win 3 straight maps" for Naniwa. If you assume the two players are evenly matched, there's a 50% x 50% chance of Naniwa winning 2 BO3's = 25% chance. If Naniwa has to win 3 straight maps in just one BO5, though, the probability is 50% x 50% x 50% = 12.5%.
So, assuming all things equal (i.e. two generic equally matched players), you are 2x more likely to win 2 BO3's straight than to win 3 maps straight.
If it was a 1-2 extended series, then you could either win 3 straight maps or drop 1 map and win 3. That math works out to a 15.625% chance of winning a 1-2 BO5 extended series, I think.
TLDR: Assuming two equally matched players
Chance of winning 2 straight BO3's = 25% Chance of winning a 0-2 BO5 extended series = 12.5% Chance of winning a 1-2 BO5 extended series = 15.625%
I don't like the extended series rule. It makes comebacks SO unlikely, and I think you could argue that a 1 BO3 series advantage makes more sense when you lose in the Winner's Bracket instead of a 1 or 2 map advantage. If Extended Series applies even if two ppl meet in the Loser's Bracket (which I think it does?), then that makes even less sense.
Nani doesn't have to win 3 maps in a row. He could win 2, lose 1, win 2 - he'd win the extended series.
EPT
