On June 27 2013 22:35 TeeTS wrote: TvT is just a terrible mess. But with the consequences reaching far into other matchups, a simple hellbat nerf would create tons of other issues.
Well, it's not that the Terran do badly in th other matchups - I think they'll nerf the Hellbats terribly soon now, especially after this game. Blizzard can't possibly want such a completely retarded matchup xD
Hellbat drops are interesting, they can be good in TvZ, and sometimes TvP. If it were just those matchups then hellbat wouldn't be nerf. But they are ridiculous in TvT. It will be interesting to see how they deal with it without messing other things up.
On June 27 2013 22:35 TeeTS wrote: TvT is just a terrible mess. But with the consequences reaching far into other matchups, a simple hellbat nerf would create tons of other issues.
Well, it's not that the Terran do badly in th other matchups - I think they'll nerf the Hellbats terribly soon now, especially after this game. Blizzard can't possibly want such a completely retarded matchup xD
rememmber Bl/infestor and how long it lasted?
Yeah, but they are already testing a Hellbat nerf. Can't take that long and i kinda think the nerf wouldn't be bad for any of the 3 matchups, tbh
On June 27 2013 22:35 BlackCompany wrote: This is one of the moments where i am considering to uninstall sc2, throw it in a garbage can and never open Teamliquid again. My god, the beauty that TvT was has succesfully turned into this shit. Maybe its the unwritten law of blizzard that eveyrtime you try to improve one aspect, you completly fuck other aspects...
Yes, it's a shame. I feel like TvT nowadays is even more stupid than the good old 4gate vs 4gate days in PvP.
They should just remove the biological tag of hellbats. It's just stupid and makes no sense. Why is it mechanical in hellion form but biological in hellbat form?
My guess is actually that they just forgot to change it but don't want to admit it because it is pretty stupid.
One of the Highlights for me about last season was the group selection show because it showed off the personalities of the top players. I was looking forward to this in season 2.
On June 27 2013 22:40 SoymasterYOS wrote: Are they serious about the group draws?
One of the Highlights for me about last season was the group selection show because it showed off the personalities of the top players. I was looking forward to this in season 2.
But OGN is going to do a draw for group. sigh
Prob to stop stupid shit like Innovation/Parting/Flash/Life groups.
On June 27 2013 22:35 TeeTS wrote: TvT is just a terrible mess. But with the consequences reaching far into other matchups, a simple hellbat nerf would create tons of other issues.
Well, it's not that the Terran do badly in th other matchups - I think they'll nerf the Hellbats terribly soon now, especially after this game. Blizzard can't possibly want such a completely retarded matchup xD
Hellbats are interesting, they can be good in TvZ, and sometimes TvP. If it were just those matchups then hellbat wouldn't be nerf. But they are ridiculous in TvT. It will be interesting to see how they deal with it without messing other things up.
I won't argue, that Hellbats can be interesting. I'm just saying, that a Hellbat nerf won't really break the other matchups, considering the current results in Korea. Given the fact how completely retarded TvT is right now and how well the Terrans perform in the other matchups, a Hellbat nerf can't be too far away, imo. Of course mainly because of TvT, but if the Terrans were weak in the other Matchups, a nerf would be more critically perceived.
Tbh I kind of want to see if there are other options, whilst I think that hellbats are pretty stupid I'd like to see if opening with some other unit/improving unit control or something will make it less stupid.
On June 27 2013 22:40 SoymasterYOS wrote: Are they serious about the group draws?
One of the Highlights for me about last season was the group selection show because it showed off the personalities of the top players. I was looking forward to this in season 2.
But OGN is going to do a draw for group. sigh
Prob to stop stupid shit like Innovation/Parting/Flash/Life groups.
Then the raffle delivered and gave us Bogus/Flash/Soulkey/Rain.
On June 27 2013 22:36 Koshi wrote: Meh, I think Keen had a shot if he holded out that 1 insane drop. But I wouldn't know how he would done that.
he held the insane drop (the 8 medivacs 200 army one)
it was the previous single into double into cuadruple that crippled him
He means the drop with 12 hellbats before the max out.
I mean the one where he lost all those workers and the game completely turned around. It looked ok at the start of the drop but eveentually ended in a massacre.
On June 27 2013 22:35 BlackCompany wrote: This is one of the moments where i am considering to uninstall sc2, throw it in a garbage can and never open Teamliquid again. My god, the beauty that TvT was has succesfully turned into this shit. Maybe its the unwritten law of blizzard that eveyrtime you try to improve one aspect, you completly fuck other aspects...
Yes, it's a shame. I feel like TvT nowadays is even more stupid than the good old 4gate vs 4gate days in PvP.
They should just remove the biological tag of hellbats. It's just stupid and makes no sense. Why is it mechanical in hellion form but biological in hellbat form?
My guess is actually that they just forgot to change it but don't want to admit it because it is pretty stupid.
It has to do with Terran being able to go full mech vs Protoss with an harass option. Edit: Among other things ofc.
On June 27 2013 22:40 SoymasterYOS wrote: Are they serious about the group draws?
One of the Highlights for me about last season was the group selection show because it showed off the personalities of the top players. I was looking forward to this in season 2.
But OGN is going to do a draw for group. sigh
seems like they couldn't fit it in their schedule which is really a shame. But hey it will distract from Bo1 Ro32.
EPT
