On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote: dimaga is so fun to listen to :D
this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with
Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.
What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?
Colossus
But then if zerg gets vipers?
Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote: dimaga is so fun to listen to :D
this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with
Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.
What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?
Colossus
But then if zerg gets vipers?
Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D
Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?
Yea i think air made of carriers mostly + HTs beats everything in the game
Ha, now I feel smart for making carriers lategame.
That game just highlights how I hate the Swarmhosts/Spore Crawler/Infestor/Queen composition. It reminds me too much of BroodLord/Infestor/Queen/Spore Crawler where Protoss can never really engage directly. This leads to base trade scenarios where the Zerg almost always wins because Spore Crawlers can move anywhere.
You saw Seed denying 4th bases by Snute multiple times with Zealot runbys but it didn't matter because Zerg has the ultimate army composition.
I don't know PvZs like this are just deathball vs deathball which I thought Hots was trying to break up.
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote: dimaga is so fun to listen to :D
this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with
Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.
What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?
Colossus
But then if zerg gets vipers?
Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D
Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?
Carriers are nice because of the huge range they have now, but that depends on the situation. Swarmhosts usually annoy you to much to get there. And you need Air attack. But usually Carriers can snipe stuff before the transfuse hits. The important bit is to always have a Recall ready to avoid a Fungal lockdown. Doubt we will see Carriers in a pro game though. Tempest take less control and do the same in a more secure fashion, even though it is weaker overall except range.
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote: dimaga is so fun to listen to :D
this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with
Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.
What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?
Colossus
But then if zerg gets vipers?
Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D
Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?
Carriers are nice because of the huge range they have now, but that depends on the situation. Swarmhosts usually annoy you to much to get there. And you need Air attack. But usually Carriers can snipe stuff before the transfuse hits. The important bit is to always have a Recall ready to avoid a Fungal lockdown. Doubt we will see Carriers in a pro game though. Tempest take less control and do the same in a more secure fashion, even though it is weaker overall except range.
this might be a stupid question, but carriers have more range now? since when? HotS? i never see them so i dunno.
also, who's casting with Rotterdam and Hasuobs right now?
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote: dimaga is so fun to listen to :D
this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with
Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.
What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?
Colossus
But then if zerg gets vipers?
Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D
Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?
Yea i think air made of carriers mostly + HTs beats everything in the game
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote: dimaga is so fun to listen to :D
this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with
Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.
What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?
Colossus
But then if zerg gets vipers?
Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D
Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?
Carriers are nice because of the huge range they have now, but that depends on the situation. Swarmhosts usually annoy you to much to get there. And you need Air attack. But usually Carriers can snipe stuff before the transfuse hits. The important bit is to always have a Recall ready to avoid a Fungal lockdown. Doubt we will see Carriers in a pro game though. Tempest take less control and do the same in a more secure fashion, even though it is weaker overall except range.
Well, off an opening like Seed's I think it's possible. He did have +1 air attack already, he had a good army to take a 4th with after beating Snute's army in that initial fight and from there if he just figures out what Snute is doing, delays by doing zealot runbys as he did and pumping carriers I think it could work.
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote: dimaga is so fun to listen to :D
this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with
Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.
What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?
Colossus
But then if zerg gets vipers?
Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D
Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?
Carriers are nice because of the huge range they have now, but that depends on the situation. Swarmhosts usually annoy you to much to get there. And you need Air attack. But usually Carriers can snipe stuff before the transfuse hits. The important bit is to always have a Recall ready to avoid a Fungal lockdown. Doubt we will see Carriers in a pro game though. Tempest take less control and do the same in a more secure fashion, even though it is weaker overall except range.
this might be a stupid question, but carriers have more range now? since when? HotS? i never see them so i dunno. also, who's casting with Rotterdam and Hasuobs right now?
EPT
