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Juissi
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland209 Posts
June 22 2013 16:18 GMT
#1141
I'm glad i didn't miss the game between Seed and Snute
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
June 22 2013 16:18 GMT
#1142
damn, Snute really wants to defend his HSC title
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 22 2013 16:18 GMT
#1143
On June 23 2013 01:17 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:16 Zheryn wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote:
dimaga is so fun to listen to :D

this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with


Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.

What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?


HTs, Warp prisms and an Oracle. Well and Colossus maybe for extra damage.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 16:19:18
June 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#1144
Splitting would not have saved Seed at that last engagement even if he had 3/3 air upgrades.
T P Z sagi
uLysSeS1
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany210 Posts
June 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#1145
On June 23 2013 01:17 WigglingSquid wrote:
Snute!
But Seed, please, learn to split.


Oh yeah, with splitting he would have owned the last fight
derp.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#1146
On June 23 2013 01:18 Wildmoon wrote:
Could carriers break that contain?


No, Protoss needs to minimize damage from fungals, and inflict as much damage with the HTs (either feedbacking the spellcasters, or storms). Seed didn't do that too well
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
June 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#1147
Come on, TLO, follow suit with Snute and advance!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#1148
On June 23 2013 01:18 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:18 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:17 Nerchio wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:17 MuseMike wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:16 Zheryn wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote:
dimaga is so fun to listen to :D

this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with


Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.

What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?

Colossus


But then if zerg gets vipers?

Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D


Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Scville
Profile Joined May 2013
43 Posts
June 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#1149
On June 23 2013 01:18 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:17 Nerchio wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:17 MuseMike wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:16 Zheryn wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote:
dimaga is so fun to listen to :D

this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with


Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.

What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?

Colossus


But then if zerg gets vipers?



if zerg gets vipers, you can't beat that army, unless the zerg makes a mistake like stephano did vs tod.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 22 2013 16:19 GMT
#1150
When a Korean wins over a foreigners, it's because the foreigners are lazy and lack skillz!

When a foreigner wins over a Korean, it's because the Korean messed up, was tired, is not a top korean.. whatever!

Great game imo
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#1151
ToD vs Happy 5 hour series inc

also, what's a carrier? i don't think that unit exists anymore. whoever said that probably means tempests, which i guess could be kinda helpful?
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
une_certaine_verve
Profile Joined May 2012
342 Posts
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#1152
TLO vs. MC is such a good matchup.
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#1153
Very well played by Snute,hes looking great.Dimaga and Pandatank gave a nice cast too
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-22 16:24:02
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#1154
On June 23 2013 01:14 dcsoda wrote:
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On June 23 2013 01:11 Faruko wrote:
Thank you Blizzard for the SH, what a freaking LAZY game design


Lol mass void ray is really fun to watch I guess?

Last time i check VR doesnt win games by using static defense and using a support unit, without need to move AT ALL, and with such a high % of win rate

i dont find SH OP at all, Seed just didnt use the "best" composition to go against them, but its just lazy lazy game desing, there must be much better ways (and more enterteinment) to balance this game... and its sad to say this, but sometimes i just understand why LoL and Dota2 has better numbers (viewers) and much MUCH higher prize money in tournaments, as of now SC2 its not a really fun game to watch

i wish Blizzard step up their game and try to "save" SC2, but adding units like SH its just a NO
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Thunderbolt8
Profile Joined June 2013
11 Posts
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#1155
well colossi get gged by corruptors. and mass corruptors and dont care about phoenix.

swarmhost + infestors + queen + corruptors ---> what can toss do?
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#1156
bring it home TLO!!
Xeanrot
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland138 Posts
June 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#1157
On June 23 2013 01:18 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:18 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:17 Nerchio wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:17 MuseMike wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:16 Zheryn wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote:
dimaga is so fun to listen to :D

this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with


Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.

What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?

Colossus


But then if zerg gets vipers?

Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D


Wonder why u arent at HSC atm
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
June 22 2013 16:21 GMT
#1158
On June 23 2013 01:17 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:16 Zheryn wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote:
dimaga is so fun to listen to :D

this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with


Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.

What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?


Mobility. It's the slowest unit composition ingame so you have to abuse that and move around on the map and get a warp prism asap after identifying it. It takes longer for Protoss to reach the composition that counters the composition (skytoss) than it takes for zerg to make the composition, but the trade-off is that you can't catch an army as the zerg player so the toss is free to move around how he best likes, and the zerg will have to chose between defending which means the protoss will out-expand the zerg, or attacking, which leads to a base race.
hundred thousand krouner
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 22 2013 16:21 GMT
#1159
Oh my god, We're gonna have a Happy-ToD. You know what that means.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
June 22 2013 16:21 GMT
#1160
On June 23 2013 01:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 01:18 Nerchio wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:18 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:17 Nerchio wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:17 MuseMike wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:16 Zheryn wrote:
On June 23 2013 01:15 Schelim wrote:
dimaga is so fun to listen to :D

this is kind of an interesting composition though. zerg just plays mech now. but the fact queens seem to trade very cost effectively with void rays just feels wrong, yet on the other hand i don't know what else they are supposed to counter them with


Ye if queens didn't counter voids, zerg would have no answer at all to voids and every PvZ would just be mass void.

What counters Queen, spore, swarm host?

Colossus


But then if zerg gets vipers?

Then protoss goes HT, i can go on like this all day :D


Does mass carrier beat it? Like, once you figure out what's going on, just stop making void rays and make carriers instead? Or is that too expensive?

Yea i think air made of carriers mostly + HTs beats everything in the game
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
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