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Northern Ireland27201 Posts
On June 18 2013 20:32 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:28 Wombat_NI wrote:On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!
I'm not hating this so far. I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch. ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex. ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units. PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts. PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight. TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch! ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor .... What now? ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords. ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra. PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins. PvP Metagame didn't change at all. TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change. ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords. ... So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3. What the fuck have you been smoking lol? PvP is the same? PvZ is the same? :S Yep, it basically is. Show me a succesful nexus in PvP before min 5/6 which is part of a standard game. I agree though that ZvP meta has changed a bit more than I said, since I forgot about those melee upgrades ling into ultra and roach/hydra/viper. Lol.
Nexus timings do not an entire metagame make. The fucking end of Collosus being the ultimate kill everything composition is perhaps a BIT of a change.
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On June 18 2013 20:30 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:29 SoleSteeler wrote:On June 18 2013 20:27 Pandemona wrote:
Not knowing much about Korea, what is the "nightclub" scene like? Is it bunch of Kpop being blasted out till 3am or is it pretty much the same as the Western world?
DownTime QuestionTime :3 Basically the same music except until as late as you want (7 AM isn't rare to leave...), and they do throw in Kpop in there occasionally sure, of course. Largely western style in my experience, though. Oooo nice nice. Is it a big thing to do like it is in the western world to go "clubbing" and such? Not like i think there all strict and what not, but i just didn't see it mixing well culture wise to the younger sort of age group if they have so much pressure to study etc Wild Tastosis appear on GOM stream in front of DJ
Yeah, Hongdae is like a 24/7 roskilde, or Sziget, or primavera.
Also, they do it even better because they eat a lot of stuff so you get drunk much later on. I like to go out with Korean people they are the most likeable, social, and open minded crazy bunch I've ever lvied with. (Maybe just compared with the way we drank in Finland.)
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On June 18 2013 20:31 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!
I'm not hating this so far. I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch. ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex. ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units. PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts. PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight. TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch! ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor .... What now? ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords. ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra. PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins. PvP Metagame didn't change at all. TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change. ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords. ... So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3. Lol, I can tell that you have absolutely ZERO idea of what is going on with SC2. If you don't like it, don't watch; but don't come into the thread for a game you hate and act like you have ANY IDEA about what's occuring or what's different than at the end of the last expansion. The game is COMPLETELY different than WOL, and in fact is COMPLETELY different than the beginning of HOTS just three months ago.
I like it, and I do watch pretty much. I'm playing masters on ladder, so I guess my game knowledge can't be that bad. If you think it's "COMPLETELY different than WOL", and that I do not have "ANY IDEA", then please, show me why. If I make a bad point, I can always say "oh well, I'm wrong". So, show me!
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On June 18 2013 20:33 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:32 Arceus wrote:
wtf is this Soul of Legend? LoL spin-off or something LoL for your phone, basically the epitome of casual gaming
Wow really? TT
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Well, I guess I don't want to be another guy bitching about the bo1 format, but serisouly? In probably the most prestigious tournement in the world, they let luck be a major factor in it? That hurts my soul a little 
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LOL whats this SOL.
Oh, this Incheon martial arts & indoors seems great, I might check some chess events there.
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C'mon Khaldor, OGN production is far from horrible. -__- (Bo1 is still questionable though)
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On June 18 2013 20:33 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:32 Arceus wrote:
wtf is this Soul of Legend? LoL spin-off or something LoL for your phone, basically the epitome of casual gaming
wow It's actually kinda decent, considering that most people have a smartphone/tablet nowadays instead of carrying a NDS
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On June 18 2013 20:34 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:31 Lunareste wrote:On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!
I'm not hating this so far. I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch. ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex. ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units. PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts. PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight. TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch! ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor .... What now? ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords. ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra. PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins. PvP Metagame didn't change at all. TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change. ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords. ... So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3. Lol, I can tell that you have absolutely ZERO idea of what is going on with SC2. If you don't like it, don't watch; but don't come into the thread for a game you hate and act like you have ANY IDEA about what's occuring or what's different than at the end of the last expansion. The game is COMPLETELY different than WOL, and in fact is COMPLETELY different than the beginning of HOTS just three months ago. I like it, and I do watch pretty much. I'm playing masters on ladder, so I guess my game knowledge can't be that bad. If you think it's "COMPLETELY different than WOL", and that I do not have "ANY IDEA", then please, show me why. If I make a bad point, I can always say "oh well, I'm wrong". So, show me!
this discussion has no place in this thread, take it elsewhere.
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On June 18 2013 20:33 vrok wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:30 Highwinds wrote:On June 18 2013 20:29 Ghanburighan wrote:
Bo1?!?!
Argh. Why on earth would they do this? It's like they haven't seen the developments in the scene in the last 3 years... Oh, wait. They haven't. I swear GOMTV didn't catch this flak when they did bo1 in 2011. Uh... You think they just randomly decided to change the format to Bo3s or what?
I just think best of one has a place in professional games. Look at pro league and it brings out such amazing builds. Im excited for what the rest of this round may hold.
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On June 18 2013 20:34 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:32 boxerfred wrote:On June 18 2013 20:28 Wombat_NI wrote:On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!
I'm not hating this so far. I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch. ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex. ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units. PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts. PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight. TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch! ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor .... What now? ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords. ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra. PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins. PvP Metagame didn't change at all. TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change. ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords. ... So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3. What the fuck have you been smoking lol? PvP is the same? PvZ is the same? :S Yep, it basically is. Show me a succesful nexus in PvP before min 5/6 which is part of a standard game. I agree though that ZvP meta has changed a bit more than I said, since I forgot about those melee upgrades ling into ultra and roach/hydra/viper. Lol. Nexus timings do not an entire metagame make. The fucking end of Collosus being the ultimate kill everything composition is perhaps a BIT of a change.
But afaik colossus still is the ultimate kill everything composition. Colossus, Immortals, Archons. Maybe tempests, but they're not (yet?) part of the meta game.
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Is that megadeth playing on GOM?
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On June 18 2013 20:34 PVJ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:30 Pandemona wrote:On June 18 2013 20:29 SoleSteeler wrote:On June 18 2013 20:27 Pandemona wrote:
Not knowing much about Korea, what is the "nightclub" scene like? Is it bunch of Kpop being blasted out till 3am or is it pretty much the same as the Western world?
DownTime QuestionTime :3 Basically the same music except until as late as you want (7 AM isn't rare to leave...), and they do throw in Kpop in there occasionally sure, of course. Largely western style in my experience, though. Oooo nice nice. Is it a big thing to do like it is in the western world to go "clubbing" and such? Not like i think there all strict and what not, but i just didn't see it mixing well culture wise to the younger sort of age group if they have so much pressure to study etc Wild Tastosis appear on GOM stream in front of DJ Yeah, Hongdae is like a 24/7 roskilde, or Sziget, or primavera. Also, they do it even better because they eat a lot of stuff so you get drunk much later on. I like to go out with Korean people they are the most likeable, social, and open minded crazy bunch I've ever lvied with. (Maybe just compared with the way we drank in Finland.)
My friends who go to Roskilde only bitch about the thing that is.... the naughtiness and smell. It's disgusting... It is not like that right? If so, sounds like a fucking great area to live in when you are studying etc.
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On June 18 2013 20:34 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:31 Lunareste wrote:On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!
I'm not hating this so far. I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch. ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex. ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units. PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts. PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight. TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch! ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor .... What now? ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords. ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra. PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins. PvP Metagame didn't change at all. TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change. ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords. ... So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3. Lol, I can tell that you have absolutely ZERO idea of what is going on with SC2. If you don't like it, don't watch; but don't come into the thread for a game you hate and act like you have ANY IDEA about what's occuring or what's different than at the end of the last expansion. The game is COMPLETELY different than WOL, and in fact is COMPLETELY different than the beginning of HOTS just three months ago. I like it, and I do watch pretty much. I'm playing masters on ladder, so I guess my game knowledge can't be that bad. If you think it's "COMPLETELY different than WOL", and that I do not have "ANY IDEA", then please, show me why. If I make a bad point, I can always say "oh well, I'm wrong". So, show me!
If you think the PvP metagame hasn't changed since WoL you're clueless. 1 gate expand is actually viable now. The others are all way oversimplified/wrong too. Goes to show masters doesn't mean you understand/follow the game.
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On June 18 2013 20:35 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:33 Scarecrow wrote:On June 18 2013 20:32 Arceus wrote:
wtf is this Soul of Legend? LoL spin-off or something LoL for your phone, basically the epitome of casual gaming wow It's actually kinda decent, considering that most people have a smartphone/tablet nowadays instead of carrying a NDS
hmmm.. PSVita gogo. come at me for liking Japanese electronics.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Did Artosis just say Inno doesnt cheese? Like his games on akilon?
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Got to love those RPG stats for players
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Flying #1, I just think the Bo1 format is REALLY good for Protoss players tbh. I'm not saying they're overpowered, but they have half a million different all-ins which just kill the opponent if he does not prepare properly. And therefore: Lots of Protoss in the Ro16 ;-)
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On June 18 2013 20:32 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 20:28 Wombat_NI wrote:On June 18 2013 20:26 boxerfred wrote:On June 18 2013 20:20 Dodgin wrote:
So in the end, the favorites advanced from the group! And It hasn't been 6 hours!
I'm not hating this so far. I'm not enjoying those matches. Ever since the the last few months of WoL, SC2 was simply boring to watch. ZvP Metagame? Go 2base before zerg can reach BL/Winfestor. Let the game be decided (in case of late game) by splitting air units vs. vortex. ZvT Metagame? Kill zerg before he can reach BL/Winfestor. Go Mass Raven in Case. Let the game be decided by splitting air units. PvT Metagame? Either go Blink allin, or go Colossi->Templar and switch it around vs vikings and ghosts. PvP Metagame? 1base until Min 8, then go 3base and have one culminating fight. TvT Metagame? Mech vs Bio or Bio on Bio or Biomech on Biomech - that was actually interesting to watch! ZvZ Metagame? Ling/Bling into Roach/Hydra/Infestor into casual BL/Winfestor .... What now? ZvP Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead of broodlords. ZvT Metagame didn't change too much. It's now lot's of mutas and sometimes roach/hydra. PvT Metagame didn't change at all, except stargate allins stronger than robo allins. PvP Metagame didn't change at all. TvT Metagame didn't change except for hellbats. Or well, you could call that a big change. ZvZ Metagame didn't change too much. It's now swarm hosts instead/before broodlords. ... So, give me one more reason to find any matchup except TvZ or TvT interesting. The one and only match I have seen in HotS that was really fun to watch and simply great and WP'ed was Life vs. Sjow yesterday, G3. What the fuck have you been smoking lol? PvP is the same? PvZ is the same? :S Yep, it basically is. Show me a succesful nexus in PvP before min 5/6 which is part of a standard game. I agree though that ZvP meta has changed a bit more than I said, since I forgot about those melee upgrades ling into ultra and roach/hydra/viper. Lol.
WCS S1 finals. Alicia vs sOs game 2. sOs has his nexus building at 5:00 and wins the game. You are not correct
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