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GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
June 17 2013 23:38 GMT
#9601
Noooo JD. T.T
Last DH he was 3rd, now 2nd... So close. Still it was good to see him on finals again. [image loading]
JD is BONJWA!
HomeWorld
Profile Joined December 2011
Romania903 Posts
June 17 2013 23:39 GMT
#9602
He turned the Star (JD) into Dust
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 17 2013 23:39 GMT
#9603
On June 18 2013 08:35 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 08:31 Shikyo wrote:
It was kind of hype but I'd say that this was by far the weakest major final this year


I personally found the basetrade games to be a lot more exciting than most of the games in the WCS Korea or WCS Season 1 finals. WCS Korea had a bunch of games where either Innovation or SK pretty much insta-died to the other's push, and WCS Global was a pretty one-sided 4-0 (only game I remember from that one is the last one where sOs tried Tempest/HT, that was cool)

By weak I don't mean boring to watch, just gameplaywise
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:40:33
June 17 2013 23:40 GMT
#9604
On June 18 2013 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stardust = the new Sniper? Seems everyone (including me) wanted Jaedong to win...

Although Jaedong lost the series as much as- if not more than- Stardust won it.

I think there were quite a few people cheering for Stardust. A lot of the protoss people and some others
obviously less than were cheering for jaedong but he still had some supporters. It's fun to root for the underdog too if you have no other preference for the finalists which was my case
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yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
June 17 2013 23:40 GMT
#9605
On June 18 2013 08:36 Makro wrote:
Geoff Robinson ‏@EGiNcontroL 13 min
Really proud of stardust but to see the devastation in jaedong s eyes .

Yea, he looked pretty totalled
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 17 2013 23:41 GMT
#9606
On June 18 2013 08:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stardust = the new Sniper? Seems everyone (including me) wanted Jaedong to win...

Although Jaedong lost the series as much as- if not more than- Stardust won it.

I think there were quite a few people cheering for Stardust. A lot of the protoss people and some others
obviously less than were cheering for jaedong but he still had some supporters. It's fun to root for the underdog too if you have no other preference for the finalists which was my case


yeah I think there were a decent amount that didn't care that much, like myself.
dreaming of a sunny day
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 17 2013 23:42 GMT
#9607
On June 18 2013 08:34 KivTM wrote:
its 2013 and protoss still winning games with immortal sentry all in......
thats pretty sick imo.

Others would just say lame and boring.
I hate when that happens, i hate spells that prevent micro (forcefields, fungal etc), so the real skill can't show.
Ofc pulling of the spells is part of skill and show and game. And i love sc2. But still some days I feel like these tactics have become too common, too easy to pull of, too much abused, too efficient and not enough of showing skill.

Tried to play sc2 macrogames with as good as it gets mechanics, scouting etc. And therefore it takes lots of time to actually get high skill with a race.
But on the other hand, the ladder pretends to show your skill with ranks and leagues, while there are so simple but effective allin-tactics for each race. Made it to Masters with Toss within 1 week, just with 3 standard tactics (each MU had a different one), when i switched back to my main I was desperate how hard it is to actually get "good"(meaning: respected by reaching a high league, which is the common ritual here "don't post anything before you are in masters league" by playing "honest".

Why can a game be easy and hard at the same time. I hate it. And i love it :D
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
June 17 2013 23:42 GMT
#9608
On June 18 2013 08:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
umm...

I've never heard of Stardust...

what just happened here. LOL

Need to watch vods ARrRHHJH

JvP happened.
SibChil
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden502 Posts
June 17 2013 23:44 GMT
#9609
At least it's good to get another Protoss champion...it's been sparse between P victories so far in HotS
Favourite players: Jaedong, DRG, Coca, Snute, Grubby, Keen, Baby | GoGo [A]lliance
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
June 17 2013 23:44 GMT
#9610
Is there a LR somewhere? Or anyone have a quick description of the games? JD vs stardust that is.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
June 17 2013 23:44 GMT
#9611
On June 18 2013 08:41 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 08:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 18 2013 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stardust = the new Sniper? Seems everyone (including me) wanted Jaedong to win...

Although Jaedong lost the series as much as- if not more than- Stardust won it.

I think there were quite a few people cheering for Stardust. A lot of the protoss people and some others
obviously less than were cheering for jaedong but he still had some supporters. It's fun to root for the underdog too if you have no other preference for the finalists which was my case


yeah I think there were a decent amount that didn't care that much, like myself.


I was going into the final kinda bored since there was no terran, german, foreigner to root for, almost decided to turn off the stream but didnt regret that ive stayed. I was going from indifferent to rooting for stardust so hard on that final match.. so intense!
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
June 17 2013 23:45 GMT
#9612
Thing is Jaedong's ZvP really isn't that bad Stardust just pulled out another Protoss allin which is the only way Protoss can win anything >.>.

Oh well, I will keep rooting. Keep having faith. Keep cheering on.

I can guarantee you that after this JD will have have next level swarmhost play in his repertoire. It's just a matter of understanding.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
June 17 2013 23:48 GMT
#9613
Guys, if you want an opinion from a bypasser, it was my first HotS tournament to watch, and I watched mostly JD games today. SC2 is getting better, and impressed me with variety of good maps and improved spectator UI, great Nathanias caster, as already countlessly mentioned in this thread, and overall production value, but I still can't get into the game.

I haven't seen any with more than 4 bases and steady 20 minutes macro game without BO advantage for one side. And too many mistakes: both strategically and mechanically (mostly at multitasking) wise that I haven't seen when I was following BW.

I'd try once more at SPL finals, have they increased the numbers since WoL? I feel like it's hard for new viewers to get interested when they randomly come across Dreamhack broadcast on the Swedish TV with so fast-paced games. Maybe they should have run a basic introduction to the game before the tournament too.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Channel56k
Profile Joined June 2010
United States413 Posts
June 17 2013 23:48 GMT
#9614
On June 18 2013 07:49 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 07:48 konicki wrote:
God, i know it sounds bitter, but the casting for the final was atrocious... Apollo constantly blabs absolute useless information, when is an even going to pick up Idra for casting, or some other pro player?

InControl is by far the best "non-pro" caster out there along with Artosis, but sadly Artosis combos horridly with Apollo because Apollo does nothing but mimic Arotosis the entire time.

I actually had to turn off the sound in the finals the casting was so bad...


Hey look, here are 105652 people disagreeing with you


You post the number of viewers as people who disagree that the casting was sub-par at best...? ok.
"Do yourself a favor, and don't listen to me."
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
June 17 2013 23:48 GMT
#9615
On June 18 2013 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stardust = the new Sniper? Seems everyone (including me) wanted Jaedong to win...

Although Jaedong lost the series as much as- if not more than- Stardust won it.

I am mad I didn't get carriers and voidrays, otherwise I am pleased with stardust/ M18m winning. I do kinda wish he was back in proleague now just so we'd for sure see more of him on a regular basis.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:50:44
June 17 2013 23:49 GMT
#9616
On June 18 2013 08:24 1Dhalism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 08:21 StarStruck wrote:
On June 18 2013 08:17 LittLeD wrote:
On June 18 2013 08:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:
The endings to dreamhacks are always great

I agree. Other tournaments should take notes, MLG especially.


I think DH can actually make it a bit better. Players still look totally clueless as what to do with the cheques, the star plaque and champagne. Maybe we need something like a victory road. The CEO always has to orchestrate it. Maybe he should prep them prior to the finals as to what is going to happen after one of them win.

If they prep hollywood pros for that kind of thing, surely should be a requirement for a bunch o nerds


What does hollywood pro's have anything to do with this? It's really not that complicated and Life's cockiness is his true downfall.

On June 18 2013 08:48 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Guys, if you want an opinion from a bypasser, it was my first HotS tournament to watch, and I watched mostly JD games today. SC2 is getting better, and impressed me with variety of good maps and improved spectator UI, great Nathanias caster, as already countlessly mentioned in this thread, and overall production value, but I still can't get into the game.

I haven't seen any with more than 4 bases and steady 20 minutes macro game without BO advantage for one side. And too many mistakes: both strategically and mechanically (mostly at multitasking) wise that I haven't seen when I was following BW.

I'd try once more at SPL finals, have they increased the numbers since WoL? I feel like it's hard for new viewers to get interested when they randomly come across Dreamhack broadcast on the Swedish TV with so fast-paced games. Maybe they should have run a basic introduction to the game before the tournament too.


Well JD always makes his ZvP interesting because he just finds so many ways to lose it's getting out of hand. The funny thing is he went more old school than anything else rather than utilizing air units.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 17 2013 23:49 GMT
#9617
On June 18 2013 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Stardust = the new Sniper? Seems everyone (including me) wanted Jaedong to win...

Although Jaedong lost the series as much as- if not more than- Stardust won it.

honestly I didn't know stardust.
But that is because I admire players the most who really wear down opponents: constant harass, expand, outplay, micro on several places at once...

I don't know why, i know it is part of the game, but I don't like cheesy/all-in-ish/cheap games.

It depends much how u are as a person, where u come from.
Playing on EU ladder, i always say "GL & HF" and because there isn't that much to do at the beginning of a game, bsides APM Spamming, I also like to ask "where u from?".
Fun fact, every country has a sort of starcraft 2 mentality and therefore tactics.
From a psychologic standpoint it is very interesting. Like you get the response " I'm from Italy" or "France" or "russia", and know the race, after several games you can tell what his playstyle will be like :D
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
June 17 2013 23:50 GMT
#9618
On June 18 2013 08:35 yOngKIN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 08:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
umm...

I've never heard of Stardust...

what just happened here. LOL

Need to watch vods ARrRHHJH

Are the DH vods gonna be free?


Just go here
http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2

At the top right, click on 'VIDEOS' (near CHAT)
The videos are all there
...
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 17 2013 23:50 GMT
#9619
On June 18 2013 08:32 Looms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 08:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
umm...

I've never heard of Stardust...

what just happened here. LOL

Need to watch vods ARrRHHJH


aka M18M from Airforce Ace

Also he was playing for Samsung KHAN before joining army.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 23:51:51
June 17 2013 23:51 GMT
#9620
Air Force ACE Would have been proud
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