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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 09 2013 06:14 GMT
#5261
This time watching the lounge is so relieving.
Support your esport!
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 06:15:13
June 09 2013 06:14 GMT
#5262
Nuke
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 09 2013 06:15 GMT
#5263
Blue team disgraced.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
DustbinBieber
Profile Joined April 2013
France276 Posts
June 09 2013 06:15 GMT
#5264
On June 09 2013 15:14 JP Dayne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:11 edgeOut wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:08 dsousa wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:05 JP Dayne wrote:
guys, is there a particular reason why there are like no pro players that can actually speak english?


I agree its odd. We all think of these guys as super smart, but not a one can do an interview in English.

Look at Dimaga, TLO and Stephano. They all had a different first language than English, but they all can also do English interviews without problem.



You can't equal the differences among European Languages to differences between European and Asian language. And also, they have too few access to English contents and people.



yeah, no
korea ranks #1 on connectivity, and all that kpop makes me think they know a lot about american music, at the very least


They don't know a lot about ACTUAL music though. LOL
Partha
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand163 Posts
June 09 2013 06:15 GMT
#5265
On June 09 2013 15:12 Ventris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:10 JP Dayne wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:08 dsousa wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:05 JP Dayne wrote:
guys, is there a particular reason why there are like no pro players that can actually speak english?


I agree its odd. We all think of these guys as super smart, but not a one can do an interview in English.

Look at Dimaga, TLO and Stephano. They all had a different first language than English, but they all can also do English interviews without problem.



most europeans I know usually speak at least 3 languages, english being one of them

Yeah. Allmost everyone speaks english and 2 or 3 foreign languages are pretty common here.



Without making a huge wall of text- You guys should know one thing: Type "What's so special/unique about the Korean language"?

Only speaking for the Korean part: Korean was specifically ENGINEERED from the ground up using old Chinese script as a basis.

Whilst most European languages share many common traits (I don't want to generalize if anyone could dispute/back me up on this) and vocab. Thus I do believe (to a certain extent) it might be easier for Europeans to learn other European languages than Koreans learning any exterior language (Asian or other).
Flash - Fantasy- JangBi - Jaedong - Stork - Bisu - Life
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
June 09 2013 06:15 GMT
#5266
On June 09 2013 15:12 Partha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:09 Boucot wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:07 Partha wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:05 JP Dayne wrote:
guys, is there a particular reason why there are like no pro players that can actually speak english?


Koreans, mostly, do know varying degrees of English as it is a mandatory subject and many students take it as an extracurricular activity. However they feel a great sense of shame when speaking English in front of people and especially foreign people. It's a shame/pride dynamic and I think most TLers would be surprised at how much English Koreans know and understand.

Do you know which languages do the korean study at school ? Mostly chinese ? Japanese ? English ? I'd like to know.


I know, ex-gf was Korean, that English was mandatory. I believe Chinese and Japanese were not. To everyone saying how European players don't have a problem with speaking English despite it not being their first language: Come on now really? You are really saying that because EUROPEANS- whom have a cultural and historical connection to the language- speak English in front of large audiences it should also be natural that Koreans should do- therefore Koreans are strange because they don't want to speak a language they aren't very proficient at even though those Euros do it all the time


pretty much this and some words / prashes are just too hard to pronounce for koreans because of how their 1st language works in that regard so english is not the easiest language for koreans.
love esports - hate homophobia
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
June 09 2013 06:15 GMT
#5267
On June 09 2013 14:56 Assirra wrote:
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On June 09 2013 14:54 samurai80 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:51 Assirra wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:47 samurai80 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:45 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:43 samurai80 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:38 Assirra wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:36 samurai80 wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 09 2013 14:26 Dodgin wrote:
[quote]

I don't think that's true, he just doesn't want to get the surgery because it means he would have to take a really long break from the game and he thinks he might as well retire if he can't compete for 6+ months.


its what I've been told.

Unless you are Mvp's doctor himself, how do you know so precisely about how bad his wrists are ? Maybe he actually recovered. It's been like 6 months for him in code B, he would have time for the surgery people were talking about. Or maybe the wrists problem is a urban legend and wasn't even that terrible in the first place...

Yea because he was lying yesterday during the interview. Please don't talk about stuff you clearly are too ignorant for.
The man needs to rely on hearing to know if he double clicks ffs.

What I mean if I have always thought strange that a player constantly says he can't play because his wrists are destroyed, but this doesn't looks like it when he plays. It's like people saying lag to be the reason whey they made a blunder. they may as well be lying, no one knows.

That would be an extremely douchey thing to do, just like accusing someone of making that up without evidence is extremely douchey

I know it would be. What I mean is what's the point in debating so much in details about something you cannot really verify.

See, logic does not work that way. You need to prove someone is lying rather then asking proof of him not lying. Innocent unless proven otherwise. You basically say "guilty till i got the doctor reports at my desk".

I'm not saying he's lying, I say we are not his doctor, we cannot verify so we might as well not talk too much about something we don't know.

He saids he has pain. Till we have proof otherwise this is fact and the truth. I don't see how you can deny this.

I never debate on something I can't verify. I had experience of this being a good practice, for instance the nuclear crisis in Japan. The medias all over the world were spreading completely unreal/biased information, based on a succession of biased statements without concrete basis supporting them, becoming finally huge mistakes. Even if it's not lying, it may be a bias or something not precise enough to be able to make judgements/debates only based on these.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 09 2013 06:15 GMT
#5268
On June 09 2013 15:13 LighT. wrote:
SK knows how to get women.


I feel this urge to befriend him so hard right now.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 09 2013 06:15 GMT
#5269
On June 09 2013 15:14 Alabasern wrote:
This time watching the lounge is so relieving.


Soulkey makes a really good guest, he seems genuinely interested in being there.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5270
On June 09 2013 15:14 JShark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:12 provrorsbarn wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:11 yuliuswin1 wrote:

i dont understand, the koreans dont gamble or cant show money on television?


I think its illegal to gamble in korea


It's illegal for Koreans to gamble except for at a single casino in the country that is located on a ski resort.

Foreigners, however, are allowed to gamble and there are casinos designed for them (Chinese, Japanese, western etc).
There are a lot of foreigners in Korea that I know of, who live off poker (AFAIK). How do they manage to do it, if the gambling is so limited?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5271
what do I tweet at so I can get a question to Soulkey?
KT FlaSh FOREVER
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5272
On June 09 2013 15:14 JP Dayne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:11 edgeOut wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:08 dsousa wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:05 JP Dayne wrote:
guys, is there a particular reason why there are like no pro players that can actually speak english?


I agree its odd. We all think of these guys as super smart, but not a one can do an interview in English.

Look at Dimaga, TLO and Stephano. They all had a different first language than English, but they all can also do English interviews without problem.



You can't equal the differences among European Languages to differences between European and Asian language. And also, they have too few access to English contents and people.



yeah, no
korea ranks #1 on connectivity, and all that kpop makes me think they know a lot about american music, at the very least


ofc they know, but you can't equal that connection with French people's connection with US or UK.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5273
On June 09 2013 15:11 edgeOut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:08 dsousa wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:05 JP Dayne wrote:
guys, is there a particular reason why there are like no pro players that can actually speak english?


I agree its odd. We all think of these guys as super smart, but not a one can do an interview in English.

Look at Dimaga, TLO and Stephano. They all had a different first language than English, but they all can also do English interviews without problem.



You can't equal the differences among European Languages to differences between European and Asian language. And also, they have too few access to English contents and people.


I'm not saying its equal, but you would think there would be at least a couple Koreans pro's that could speak great English.

Think how much sponsorship money that would be worth. The incentive is there for them.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-09 06:17:10
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5274
On June 09 2013 15:08 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:05 JP Dayne wrote:
guys, is there a particular reason why there are like no pro players that can actually speak english?


I agree its odd. We all think of these guys as super smart, but not a one can do an interview in English.

Look at Dimaga, TLO and Stephano. They all had a different first language than English, but they all can also do English interviews without problem.



That's because French and German are very close to English. They share the same lineage, whereas Korean does not. (Never mind the fact that France, Germany, and England are all very close to each other)
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5275
again this worst tip you can give to people. Just endure it don't give up at some point they crack.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5276
Good morning TL <3
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 09 2013 06:16 GMT
#5277
SK doesn't take no for an answer.
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
June 09 2013 06:17 GMT
#5278
On June 09 2013 15:12 JShark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:10 lichter wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:09 Boucot wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:07 Partha wrote:
On June 09 2013 15:05 JP Dayne wrote:
guys, is there a particular reason why there are like no pro players that can actually speak english?


Koreans, mostly, do know varying degrees of English as it is a mandatory subject and many students take it as an extracurricular activity. However they feel a great sense of shame when speaking English in front of people and especially foreign people. It's a shame/pride dynamic and I think most TLers would be surprised at how much English Koreans know and understand.

Do you know which languages do the korean study at school ? Mostly chinese ? Japanese ? English ? I'd like to know.


Why would Koreans be required to study Chinese or Japanese lol


I work at a Korean middle school.

Students learn English [compulsory] from grade 3 elementary school and in middle school they have to learn either Japanese or Chinese (at my school) in addition to English.

I can guarantee that 90% of under 25s can understand a huge amount of English, they are just shy and not confident in speaking it at all as they're afraid to be embarrassed or say something wrong.


yeah, I thought some shitty part of cultural thing like this would play a role
I mean, why in the seven hells would you be afraid to try and speak another language? so what if you do it wrong? at least you tried to communicate with, like, a whole other culture
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
June 09 2013 06:17 GMT
#5279
can the games start before i piss meself??
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
June 09 2013 06:17 GMT
#5280
On June 09 2013 15:13 Zinthar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2013 15:12 JShark wrote:

I work at a Korean middle school.

Students learn English [compulsory] from grade 3 elementary school and in middle school they have to learn either Japanese or Chinese (at my school) in addition to English.


Hmmm, then why do so many Korean pro gamers seem uncomfortable speaking it? Do they just not want to because they're not fluent?


Remember most korean pro gamers are high school dropouts, so you should remember that their formal education has been a lot more fragmented then the typical korean.
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