Great finals, imo. Even if I lost 20 bucks on my bet on Bogus with a friend. =/
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ObeseHydra
Brazil196 Posts
Great finals, imo. Even if I lost 20 bucks on my bet on Bogus with a friend. =/ | ||
MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On June 02 2013 01:16 lichter wrote: Eh. It's actually kinda inaccurate 1 - Proxy 12/12. Soulkey just dies. 2 - Hellbat drop opening into 3cc does no damage. Soulkey decides to roach hydra attack, but a drop does too much damage so he decides to keep attacking. Over extends, dies on the counter eventually. 3 - Soulkey decides to roach bane all in on cross positions Whirlwind. Gets in, but Innovation's amazing micro saves him. Counter into gg. 4 - Speed roach speed bane all in on 3 bases. Innovation doesn't like tanks. Dies. 5 - Slow roach and bane all in on 2.5 bases. Innovation doesn't like tanks. Dies. 6 - Failed 2rax because Soulkey cancels his hatch. Baneling counter into gg. 7 - Macro game. Innovation's 3rd cc denied. Triple drop dies to mutas. gg. Yeah, 2, 3 (for the amazing defense by Innovation) and 7 were the only ones worth watching. In 7 you could really see in Innovation's play how desperate he must've gotten by then, the three medivacs full with army would never have been lost by him if he wasn't nervous as hell. Soulkey really won with his nerves of steel today, he earned my respect with that! | ||
WIllBIll
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 02 2013 01:58 ACrow wrote: Yeah, 2, 3 (for the amazing defense by Innovation) and 7 were the only ones worth watching. In 7 you could really see in Innovation's play how desperate he must've gotten by then, the three medivacs full with army would never have been lost by him if he wasn't nervous as hell. Soulkey really won with his nerves of steel today, he earned my respect with that! I do not remember Innovation ever going for a doom drop like that. Always multipronged drops, better never all his eggs in one basket. | ||
IPA
United States3206 Posts
Such an exciting, action packed series. Incredible control and crisp all ins. I loved this series and cheered when Soulkey was crying on stage. | ||
ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:02 lichter wrote: I do not remember Innovation ever going for a doom drop like that. Always multipronged drops, better never all his eggs in one basket. You didn't see the three fully packed medivacs in game seven flying directly into Soulkey's mutas? Which was what lost him the last game? Edit: at around 9:55 in set 7 http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs1/vod/80094 Innovation was, arguably, ahead until that point in time. He even knew the mutas were in that area, because mere seconds before that his lone viking was killed in that exact spot. He was very shaken in that game. | ||
PVJ
Hungary5212 Posts
So sorry for Bogus tho. Hope he doesn't fall from here, and we seem him in the next finals again. We need consistency. | ||
renkin
France249 Posts
On June 02 2013 01:39 Snowpoint wrote: + Show Spoiler + I know there was all the 'why no macro game' complaints, but I don't think it was for lack of trying. Games 1 & 6: Yes they were both proxy rax. But Game 1 was a great mind-game, and Game 6 showed why you don't try it twice after getting your opponent to commit to drone scout every game after the first time you try it. Games 3, 4 & 5: It seems that Soulkey had recognized the greedy 3CC build with minimal army that Innovation frequently played, so he had a couple variants of timing counters ready. Ling/Bling Run-by (G3), Speed Roach/Bling (G4) and Roach/Bling followed by Speed Roach/Bling (G5). Short games with timing attacks might not always be the most fun, but strategically they were a brilliant prepared response to not just a macro build, but to the very greedy macro build that Innovation used too frequently. A friend pointed out to me that these Roach/Bling timings happened a lot less in WoL because terrans played a lot more of a siege tank style, which defended them. The big note is that Innovation used very similar openings that wasn't overly safe 3 games in a row. To the 'macro' criers: there is no reason to put yourself behind by allowing your opponent to freely do a very greedy macro build. A chink in the armor of that build type was found, and exploited. Games 2 & 7: These two games featured Innovation going for the Hellbat drop into macro style that is commonly seen in the current meta. The only problem? Soulkey's drop defense style shut it down extremely hard. Ling/Roach, then Hydra after defended with nearly no losses (G2), and Ling/Roach then Muta after defended with minimal losses (G7). Oddly, after the initial drops failed to be cost efficient, both games were decided by micro mistakes/attention that snowballed the game. Soulkey's move of Roach/Hydra across the map without Hydra speed upgrade completed, and then Innovation's 3 Medivac drop after the Muta pack had already been confirmed on the map (and not boosting them to safety the moment he saw the Muta on the minimap). Final Thoughts: Thus after a good night's sleep to gather my thoughts, Innovation was not innovative in his play style through the sets. 2 proxy rax (succeeded, then failed hard), 2 Hellbat drop expand builds (succeeded, then failed on repeat), and 3x3CC early builds (succeeded, then busted hard on both repeats). By the 3rd time he tried the 3CC build, he should have made some sort of adjustment to be better prepared for almost expected roach/bling all-in. I really have to applaud Soulkey's prepared reaction builds to what he was seeing. He made a couple of small mistakes of army movement in games 2 and 3 (lings dying before banes done, and roach/hydra @ opposing natural) that nearly cost him the series. He deserved the win. Totally agreed. The reason Soulkey won is because he saw and exploited every flaw he found. The way they lost because of those little little mistakes shows how high level it was ( exept the triple drop into the muta cloud, I guess he started to feel the pressure ). What could you expect when 2 macro specialists prevent each other to go where they feel the strongest ? | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:03 ACrow wrote: You didn't see the three fully packed medivacs in game seven flying directly into Soulkey's mutas? Which was what lost him the last game? I mean in other games. That's the first time I've ever seen him do something that desperate. | ||
ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:04 lichter wrote: I mean in other games. That's the first time I've ever seen him do something that desperate. Totally agreed, it was only until game 7 that he had a big break down. It's amazing what composure Soulkey showed by turning the 0-3 into a 4-3. | ||
NapkinBox
United States314 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:02 IPA wrote: People apparently want 200/200 death ball play only? Such an exciting, action packed series. Incredible control and crisp all ins. I loved this series and cheered when Soulkey was crying on stage. No one is saying they want 200/200 death ball... This series didn't show any of that "exciting, action packed" TvZ we all loved through the years and seeing the players are Soulkey and Innovation, it was a major disappointment. | ||
ObeseHydra
Brazil196 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:02 IPA wrote: People apparently want 200/200 death ball play only? Such an exciting, action packed series. Incredible control and crisp all ins. I loved this series and cheered when Soulkey was crying on stage. No, complainers are just always more vocal and anoying. If you check the pools, will see the majority of us gave 4 or 5 stars for the series. =) People just like to complain. They bash 200/200 deathball and now complain because there were none of this boring stuff on the finals. | ||
Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
I hope in a while WCS Europe and WCS America will put on similar giant shows for their finals. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:26 Proseat wrote: What a comeback by SoulKey. Gratz! I hope in a while WCS Europe and WCS America will put on similar giant shows for their finals. WCS EU is done yo Honestly the games were about 12x more fun | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:37 Zealously wrote: I don't understand why anyone would ever go to bed when a Bo7 is at 3-0 when players like Life, Squirtle (and now Soulkey) exist. Do you want to miss comebacks? Not enough esports passion | ||
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opterown
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Australia54784 Posts
On June 02 2013 02:37 Zealously wrote: I don't understand why anyone would ever go to bed when a Bo7 is at 3-0 when players like Life, Squirtle (and now Soulkey) exist. Do you want to miss comebacks? yeah but it was 3-0 pretty one-sided bad games | ||
DiuLaSing
Hong Kong225 Posts
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