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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#121
On May 27 2013 15:37 Fody03 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:36 slowbacontron wrote:
By the way, is the hellion<--->hellbat transformation used commonly? I haven't been paying enough attention.



Barely ever,if at all

Huh. One would think that there is at least some reason to use it. I believe the original concept of the hellbat was for the hellion to transform into a battle hellion o_O

My internet is biting the friggin dust right now.
jjakji fan
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
May 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#122
it's about time, revival
you live and you learn
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
May 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#123
I missed the first game due to bloody early, but how on earth could Jaedong lose vs this terran?

He should change his name to something I don't recognise, at least then I won't be disappointed all the time
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Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
May 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#124
omg the korean commentators get me so pumped, they made this seem super epic lol
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
May 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#125
On May 27 2013 15:41 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:40 Ketch wrote:
Hmmm I don't know why Revival is ahead? What is Cure doing behind this?

he is not ahead, the composition sucks and 15minute spire + infestation pit =endless drops without being punished for it


Apparently he was ahead . When we saw this situation in MVP vs Stephano yesterday, MVP was always ahead or equal in supply. That's why I said Revival was ahead. Also he had 2/2 which was a big deal.
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1791 Posts
May 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#126
That was just a crapload of zerg waves. Really surprising considering the number of drones roasted. Nice strategy against hellbat drops.
Leee Jaee Doong
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
May 27 2013 06:45 GMT
#127
On May 27 2013 15:41 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:40 Ketch wrote:
Hmmm I don't know why Revival is ahead? What is Cure doing behind this?

he is not ahead, the composition sucks and 15minute spire + infestation pit =endless drops without being punished for it

If you keep investing into Medivacs and Hellbats that keep dying, you will never have a suitable army for a followup push. Revival was OK with delayed tech/army, and as long as your drone production exceeds your losses, you can easily beat that style of play.

Of course, that requires some pretty mediocre drop control like we just saw.
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 27 2013 06:46 GMT
#128
RevivaLLLLLLLLLLW!!!!

But how the fuck did he win that game, he'd lost 38 workers at the 11 min mark to hellbats...........
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#129
Revival heading straight for the all kill!

no?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#130
On May 27 2013 15:44 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:41 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:40 Ketch wrote:
Hmmm I don't know why Revival is ahead? What is Cure doing behind this?

he is not ahead, the composition sucks and 15minute spire + infestation pit =endless drops without being punished for it


Apparently he was ahead . When we saw this situation in MVP vs Stephano yesterday, MVP was always ahead or equal in supply. That's why I said Revival was ahead. Also he had 2/2 which was a big deal.

i don't see that he was ahead, as i said the composition sucked and having upgrades on zerglings when you have 30 roaches isn't all that great either. if cure holds this is it, but cure had too many tanks on the lowground
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#131
On May 27 2013 15:44 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:37 Fody03 wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:36 slowbacontron wrote:
By the way, is the hellion<--->hellbat transformation used commonly? I haven't been paying enough attention.



Barely ever,if at all

Huh. One would think that there is at least some reason to use it. I believe the original concept of the hellbat was for the hellion to transform into a battle hellion o_O

My internet is biting the friggin dust right now.


the upgrade is quiet expensive for that and you can build both. Not something people incorporate into their build just like zergs don't get ovi speed or burrow.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
May 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#132
you can lose a lot of drones to hellbat drops so long as the terran only makes hellbats and medivacs that die
get rich or die mining
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jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
May 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#133
Shit late to the show were the first 2 games any good?
In the rear with the gear!
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
May 27 2013 06:47 GMT
#134
On May 27 2013 15:46 Evil_Sheep wrote:
RevivaLLLLLLLLLLW!!!!

But how the fuck did he win that game, he'd lost 38 workers at the 11 min mark to hellbats...........


Cure donated a lot of units and didn't have enough to defend a counter attack.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 27 2013 06:48 GMT
#135
On May 27 2013 15:47 jekku wrote:
Shit late to the show were the first 2 games any good?


Nopes.
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shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
May 27 2013 06:48 GMT
#136
On May 27 2013 15:47 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:44 Ketch wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:41 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:40 Ketch wrote:
Hmmm I don't know why Revival is ahead? What is Cure doing behind this?

he is not ahead, the composition sucks and 15minute spire + infestation pit =endless drops without being punished for it


Apparently he was ahead . When we saw this situation in MVP vs Stephano yesterday, MVP was always ahead or equal in supply. That's why I said Revival was ahead. Also he had 2/2 which was a big deal.

i don't see that he was ahead, as i said the composition sucked and having upgrades on zerglings when you have 30 roaches isn't all that great either. if cure holds this is it, but cure had too many tanks on the lowground


Well there really isn't anywhere else to put the tanks that is efficient to take advantage of the "double choke" leading into that space between the natural and third. I am confused as to how Revival won that fight to be honest.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
May 27 2013 06:49 GMT
#137
On May 27 2013 15:47 jekku wrote:
Shit late to the show were the first 2 games any good?

No, but go ahead and hit that mute button.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 27 2013 06:49 GMT
#138
On May 27 2013 15:48 shockaslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:47 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:44 Ketch wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:41 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:40 Ketch wrote:
Hmmm I don't know why Revival is ahead? What is Cure doing behind this?

he is not ahead, the composition sucks and 15minute spire + infestation pit =endless drops without being punished for it


Apparently he was ahead . When we saw this situation in MVP vs Stephano yesterday, MVP was always ahead or equal in supply. That's why I said Revival was ahead. Also he had 2/2 which was a big deal.

i don't see that he was ahead, as i said the composition sucked and having upgrades on zerglings when you have 30 roaches isn't all that great either. if cure holds this is it, but cure had too many tanks on the lowground


Well there really isn't anywhere else to put the tanks that is efficient to take advantage of the "double choke" leading into that space between the natural and third. I am confused as to how Revival won that fight to be honest.


Cure's army was actually pretty small. He didn't have a lot of marines and barely any medivacs
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
May 27 2013 06:50 GMT
#139
On May 27 2013 15:47 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:44 slowbacontron wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:37 Fody03 wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:36 slowbacontron wrote:
By the way, is the hellion<--->hellbat transformation used commonly? I haven't been paying enough attention.



Barely ever,if at all

Huh. One would think that there is at least some reason to use it. I believe the original concept of the hellbat was for the hellion to transform into a battle hellion o_O

My internet is biting the friggin dust right now.


the upgrade is quiet expensive for that and you can build both. Not something people incorporate into their build just like zergs don't get ovi speed or burrow.

Yeah, makes enough sense. It's a shame the upgrade didn't turn out to be viable.
jjakji fan
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 06:51:33
May 27 2013 06:51 GMT
#140
On May 27 2013 15:47 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 15:44 Ketch wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:41 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 27 2013 15:40 Ketch wrote:
Hmmm I don't know why Revival is ahead? What is Cure doing behind this?

he is not ahead, the composition sucks and 15minute spire + infestation pit =endless drops without being punished for it


Apparently he was ahead . When we saw this situation in MVP vs Stephano yesterday, MVP was always ahead or equal in supply. That's why I said Revival was ahead. Also he had 2/2 which was a big deal.

i don't see that he was ahead, as i said the composition sucked and having upgrades on zerglings when you have 30 roaches isn't all that great either. if cure holds this is it, but cure had too many tanks on the lowground


Meh, game was over when Revival had nearly 20 roaches and 71 drones vs inferior army and massively inferior economy of Cure. If Cure had kept more tanks on the high ground, Revival would have had a free snipe on both the third and natural, and it would have been 4 bases to 1.5.
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
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