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megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1441
i want soulkey vs innovation finals because i believe soulkey has the stuff to shut down idiotic innovation fanboyism without turning teamliquid into a cesspool of "roach bane bust OP"

so yeah go innovation (for now)!!
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1442
On May 23 2013 19:33 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:32 silentsaint wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:31 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Roach bane all-in is seriously carrying bad (relative) players like this to RO4.

Roach bane all-in to punish ridicoulus builds is seriously carrying good reactive players like this to RO4.

Call it what you want, it's still pathetic.

User was warned for this post


Reading your opponent's playstyle and exploiting weaknesses (i.e. greed) with clever build counters is pathetic? What do you suggest, both players yell their strategies across the studio?
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1443
On May 23 2013 19:37 FakePseudo wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:35 Fionn wrote:
another bingo covered

Which one? Didn't keep track in the last 3minutes

ZvZ finals would be funny.
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pivor
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland198 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1444
On May 23 2013 19:33 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:32 silentsaint wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:31 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Roach bane all-in is seriously carrying bad (relative) players like this to RO4.

Roach bane all-in to punish ridicoulus builds is seriously carrying good reactive players like this to RO4.

Call it what you want, it's still pathetic.

User was warned for this post

Roach bane all-in is something that can be easly executed by silver+ players.
:F
vandelayindustries
Profile Joined August 2011
United States290 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1445
On May 23 2013 19:36 DJHelium wrote:
This is what they're talking about. It's hilarious.



Thank you! Can't wait to watch this.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1446
On May 23 2013 19:37 FakePseudo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:35 Fionn wrote:
another bingo covered

Which one? Didn't keep track in the last 3minutes


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Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1447
The should show APM to know when they go "look, no hands" -> cancels bunker.
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1448
almost 30k viewers, this needs to be seen by everyone ! Best series ever ;D
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
TheProphet_
Profile Joined May 2012
51 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1449
Innovation better f**** win this one. that's all im saying.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1450
only scrubs whine about cheese
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#1451
On May 23 2013 19:37 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:33 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:32 silentsaint wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:31 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Roach bane all-in is seriously carrying bad (relative) players like this to RO4.

Roach bane all-in to punish ridicoulus builds is seriously carrying good reactive players like this to RO4.

Call it what you want, it's still pathetic.

User was warned for this post



It's not.. I'm sorry but when you're facing a player who is playing greedy, you all-in that guy. It's up to the greedy player to make sure he's safe against an all-in. If he isn't, he deserves to lose. That's all there is to it.

maybe I'm beating a dead horse but I don't believe that you can dislike someone's decision of being all-in when it has a high probability of getting a win. That's what competitive esports is all about.


Can't hate on Symbol. Even though I would agree BoguS will utterly dominate him in a straight forward macro game then its even more smart to allin. Symbol's job is to win, cannot blame him. I think its unenjoyable to watch, but I understand that as a progamer he needs to do everything to win.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1452
On May 23 2013 19:34 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:32 silentsaint wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:31 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Roach bane all-in is seriously carrying bad (relative) players like this to RO4.

Roach bane all-in to punish ridicoulus builds is seriously carrying good reactive players like this to RO4.

His build is fine. Ever built 3 bunkers, Marauders and Mines to discover those Roaches were only moving out on the map to scare you while your opponent power drones to 70? This is the risk if you 'overreact'. This is what Bogus thought Symbol was doing. He guessed wrong and thus lost, that's all.

Yes, because Terran can't salvage Bunkers or something...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1453
On May 23 2013 19:36 DustbinBieber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:34 TheDwf wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:32 silentsaint wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:31 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Roach bane all-in is seriously carrying bad (relative) players like this to RO4.

Roach bane all-in to punish ridicoulus builds is seriously carrying good reactive players like this to RO4.

His build is fine. Ever built 3 bunkers, Marauders and Mines to discover those Roaches were only moving out on the map to scare you while your opponent power drones to 70? This is the risk if you 'overreact'. This is what Bogus thought Symbol was doing. He guessed wrong and thus lost, that's all.


I know. I am just explaining why Bogus 'underreacted.'
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 10:38:32
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1454
On May 23 2013 19:36 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:34 TheDwf wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:32 silentsaint wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:31 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Roach bane all-in is seriously carrying bad (relative) players like this to RO4.

Roach bane all-in to punish ridicoulus builds is seriously carrying good reactive players like this to RO4.

His build is fine. Ever built 3 bunkers, Marauders and Mines to discover those Roaches were only moving out on the map to scare you while your opponent power drones to 70? This is the risk if you 'overreact'. This is what Bogus thought Symbol was doing. He guessed wrong and thus lost, that's all.


This is true. The only people defending someone as genuinely bad (relative) as Symbol are simply biased. Roach bane all-in is carrying players like him.


Innovation isn't stupid. He studied the guy, and still decide to go for greedy build. Maybe symbol is better than what you give him credit for ?
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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1455
Whirlwind is actually better for Innovation than Symbol as less cheeses are available due to the travel time.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1456
20 sided cheese die, lol.
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Gben592
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom281 Posts
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1457
Don't blame Symbol at all, Innovation is just unstoppable in macro games.
"The more skilled player is the one who wins, and I don't think there's better balance than what we have now." INnoVation
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1458
On May 23 2013 19:36 ChaosArcher wrote:
Yeah really people who say punishing greedy play is lame are just so wrong...
Why would you let them get away with it to start the midgame with a huge disadvantage?!


Yeh they didn't seem to have a problem with Naniwa cheesing greedy Jaedong 3 hatch opening to keep him straight. Im sure its just whining, most people know this has to be done to keep them on even footing.
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 10:38:43
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1459
On May 23 2013 19:37 pivor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 19:33 Zenbrez wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:32 silentsaint wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:31 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Roach bane all-in is seriously carrying bad (relative) players like this to RO4.

Roach bane all-in to punish ridicoulus builds is seriously carrying good reactive players like this to RO4.

Call it what you want, it's still pathetic.

User was warned for this post

Roach bane all-in is something that can be easly executed by silver+ players.


Scouting and defending a roach-ban all in can be easly executed by a silver+ player.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 23 2013 10:38 GMT
#1460
On May 23 2013 19:37 fishjie wrote:
only scrubs whine about cheese


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