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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 21 2013 09:49 GMT
#321
On May 21 2013 18:47 Veroleg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:17 Pandemona wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:15 Lorch wrote:
Really hoping for shy, but I think it's gonna be hard to win a bo7 with wierd builds against someone who is used to practice against your wierd stuff, on the other hand I think bogus would destroy any zerg 4-0 atm so shy hitting finals would make them soooo much better.


Pretty much agree lol.
If Bogus faces any zerg in the finals he wins, straight up.
If however he faces a P he will straight up lose xD

i dont understnad what you people mean. just 100%? you can get 1.4 times the money on him vs symbol


Well 100% as in terms of you can't see him losing. On paper, it's like Barcelona playing football or Bayern Munich. You would bet that they will not lose 100%.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
May 21 2013 09:49 GMT
#322
Symbol beat innovation in the last gsl. It was WOL though

On May 21 2013 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Fyi, Soulkey is the only zerg who has ever beaten innovation in a televised zvt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=663&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z
(He is 8-0 vs Roro, Life and Leenock. With wins against Hydra, Effort and Jaedong too...)

pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#323
sOs's gateway first play is stronger than when he opens nexus forge. I think its a bad idea to play macro vs Soulkey.
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#324
Imagine if there had been a backdoor path to the third base, so that SoS could actually get his collosus to the third to defend, would have made for a completely different game i think.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#325
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Don't hold your breath.

The gimmicky race design makes it great for one-off, prepared matches like pro-league, but terrible in longer series.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#326
On May 21 2013 18:49 agsub wrote:
Symbol beat innovation in the last gsl. It was WOL though

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Fyi, Soulkey is the only zerg who has ever beaten innovation in a televised zvt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=663&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z
(He is 8-0 vs Roro, Life and Leenock. With wins against Hydra, Effort and Jaedong too...)



I assume he's talking about exclusively HotS
AdministratorBreak the chains
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17726 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#327
On May 21 2013 18:48 Days wrote:
does anyone know the name of this song please?!?!?? it sounds good

"Expert" mods4ever.com
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#328
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#329
On May 21 2013 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Fyi, Soulkey is the only zerg who has ever beaten innovation in a televised zvt.

GSL 2013 Season 1. Symbol 3-2 Innovation.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
muHb
Profile Joined August 2010
United States75 Posts
May 21 2013 09:50 GMT
#330
sunshine on me~~
May the optimism of tomorrow be your foundation for today.
czaku
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland429 Posts
May 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#331
On May 21 2013 18:48 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 Kim Hyuna wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 xAdra wrote:
I'd like to call mutas OP seeing as to how game ending they are, but soulkey man. He bought time to attain resources for that muta switch with his excellent roach push.

That game was over whatever soulkey did, still Muta switches are ridiculously strong mid-late game. Toss basically has to have 4-6 phoenixes ready or they're in a terrible position.


Roaches are way too cheap. 25 gas? What bro?! With 3 base bank muta switch EZ.

I agree, roaches should be 150/50 and cost 4 supply so that Protoss don't have to both with scouting roach attacks or making units that counter them.



The truth is, protoss always had a hard time vs roaches.
Back on topic. I hope sOs can make it and come back from this. On the other hand SoulKey looks so dominant :/
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
May 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#332
On May 21 2013 18:50 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 Days wrote:
does anyone know the name of this song please?!?!?? it sounds good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av_wAyMxO4M&list=FL9dskUOyrgkbBKQ-owywv5Q&index=1


awesome. thanks.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
May 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#333
So sOs, what have we learned? Fast 3 base play into Collosus isn't working at all. They suck vs Mutas. Time to make Phoenix instead of Voidrays. This of course is after you have a SAFE third
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
May 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#334
On May 21 2013 18:49 agsub wrote:
Symbol beat innovation in the last gsl. It was WOL though

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Fyi, Soulkey is the only zerg who has ever beaten innovation in a televised zvt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=663&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z
(He is 8-0 vs Roro, Life and Leenock. With wins against Hydra, Effort and Jaedong too...)



This isn't WOL, baby!

This is Heart of the Swarrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
KT FlaSh FOREVER
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
May 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#335
On May 21 2013 18:49 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 kubiks wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 Bam Lee wrote:
man i hope symbol doesnt ruin everybodys finals by winning against innovation -_-


Ask Artosis, innovation can't lose


I think that's precisely why he's worried


innovation is so good, hes immune to that curse

There's tempting the fates, there's double-triple-daring the fates and then there's this.
Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
May 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#336
TIME TO SWITCH RACE.
김현아 fighting!
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 09:52:35
May 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#337
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

It's just like it has always been, even back in broodwar. There were few really consistent protosses (garimto, reach in the earlier days, the six dragons between 07 and 09 and finally jangbi in 11 and 12), protoss has never really dominated the individual leagues like terran (boxer, oov, nada, flash) and zerg (he who must not be named, jaedong) did.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#338
On May 21 2013 18:51 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:49 agsub wrote:
Symbol beat innovation in the last gsl. It was WOL though

On May 21 2013 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Fyi, Soulkey is the only zerg who has ever beaten innovation in a televised zvt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=663&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z
(He is 8-0 vs Roro, Life and Leenock. With wins against Hydra, Effort and Jaedong too...)


This isn't WOL, baby!

This is Heart of the Swarrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

If he wanted HotS he should have written HotS.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#339
If Symbol plays against bogus like he played against Bomber , he might have a chance. Just Roach allin.
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ValarK
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#340
On May 21 2013 18:50 Brett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Don't hold your breath.

The gimmicky race design makes it great for one-off, prepared matches like pro-league, but terrible in longer series.


It just seems there is no contest lately in any matches that are BO3 or more. It's incredibly frustrating.
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