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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 22 2013 00:43 GMT
#1461
Very cool comeback from s0s after the quick 3-0, I'm not sure why he played like he did in the last game tho. Loved the cannons.
The heart's eternal vow
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7830 Posts
May 22 2013 00:58 GMT
#1462
On May 22 2013 05:55 Figgy wrote:
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On May 22 2013 03:44 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
On May 22 2013 03:30 Figgy wrote:
People still thinking that SC2 in it's current HOTS form isn't insanely skill intensive (yes, even compared to Brood War) really just aren't very good at the game, to be honest.

Innovation is way above any Terran right now, especially against Zerg. He is also much better than Flash, with the skill ceiling in SC2 not even being closed to reached yet.

It honestly surprises me how many people think that Life wouldn't decimated Brood War the way he has been SC2 the last few months, with his insane multitasking he would have easily overtaken Flash within a couple months or at least been on par.

Have you played BW and watched Flash playing BW? Life wouldnt take a game of Flash in 1 year of training. BW -> SC2 is much, much easier than SC2 -> BW.


And how much BW do you think Life has played? Absolutely zero. To say he wouldn't be a prodigy is way beyond your understanding.

He simply became the best SC2 player in the world during his first month out of school. In a year of straight training there is a very good chance he'd topple Flash in BW with ease. No one is even close to on par with his multitasking atm.

I know you probably don't think so but this is pretty much trolling. BW and SC2 are completely different games with imo completely different skill sets and pacing. Life could have a been B teamer Brood War for all you know, which is the point, no one knows. Flash dominated on the highest level in BW. Everyone knows this.

On the series, I'm surprised SK didn't get the 4-0.
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
May 22 2013 01:26 GMT
#1463
On May 22 2013 03:58 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 03:30 Figgy wrote:
People still thinking that SC2 in it's current HOTS form isn't insanely skill intensive (yes, even compared to Brood War) really just aren't very good at the game, to be honest.

Innovation is way above any Terran right now, especially against Zerg. He is also much better than Flash, with the skill ceiling in SC2 not even being closed to reached yet.

It honestly surprises me how many people think that Life wouldn't decimated Brood War the way he has been SC2 the last few months, with his insane multitasking he would have easily overtaken Flash within a couple months or at least been on par.

It surprises you because you clearly haven't played Brood War therefore you do not know the difficulty of the game and amount of skill required to play at the highest level.


i wouldn't be surprised if starcraft 3 would have a 'formation' hotkey that allows you to split units with one key press lol. this seems to be the trend in all sorts of games right now, not just rts. they're making shit easier to be more accessible to a lot of people.
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 22 2013 01:40 GMT
#1464
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
May 22 2013 03:57 GMT
#1465
On May 22 2013 10:40 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On May 22 2013 07:45 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On May 22 2013 05:11 Emzeeshady wrote:
On May 22 2013 05:09 RifleCow wrote:
Wow, I thought there was some actual discussion of the gameplay between SoS and Soulkey espeicially with the close series. Instead, it's just retarded BW vs SC2 crap.

I am not really sure the matches were worth talking about...


Yeah. While watching, I nearly thought the match was fixed. Terrible play from sOs in the first several games, then they seemed to "switch seats" to allow soulkey to suck huge ass for the next several games.

Nothing to glean, nothing to gain. Just terrible play totally unworthy of the ro4. But I think it's a sure-fire thing that Symbol vs. innovation will provide some decent games. Hoping...

It isn't. Symbol has gotten here by all inning Terran every game. He has deemed this the only way to win vs Terran and he will bust or die vs Innovation. Terran players are stubborn so I think Symbol takes a few games before Innovation figures out he needs to build units before 8 minutes.


Hey, all-in games can be exciting especially if the defender takes damage and survives. It can also be exciting to see the defender make a miraculous defense also (roro vs innovation anyone?). I think Innovation should be up to the task (I hope) but I also hope that Symbol mixes it up to try to throw Innovation off his greed game.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 22 2013 04:02 GMT
#1466
They're talking about this series and how god awful it was right now on Meta if anyone cares http://www.twitch.tv/artosis/old
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37063 Posts
May 22 2013 04:11 GMT
#1467
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=413809

Interview is up!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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alexanderzero
Profile Joined June 2008
United States659 Posts
May 22 2013 05:55 GMT
#1468
I felt like both players were really choking a lot. They had horrible looks on their faces after the match was over. I wonder if they feel guilty for playing such a rough series against a fellow teammate? Regardless, Soulkey was playing sloppy as hell by the end. I hope that he won't play that way during the finals.

Also to the people saying innovation is the best Starcraft player of all time, lets not get hasty. Innovation's streak barely compares to that of previous players like Life, MMA, DRG who were on fire at times. Sometimes a player understands the metagame in a way that gives them a temporary advantage. Innovation needs to be consistent for longer than this if he's going to be remembered as anything other than a flash in the pan.
I am a tournament organizazer.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
May 22 2013 21:06 GMT
#1469
On May 22 2013 05:55 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2013 03:44 Batisterio-PiB wrote:
On May 22 2013 03:30 Figgy wrote:
People still thinking that SC2 in it's current HOTS form isn't insanely skill intensive (yes, even compared to Brood War) really just aren't very good at the game, to be honest.

Innovation is way above any Terran right now, especially against Zerg. He is also much better than Flash, with the skill ceiling in SC2 not even being closed to reached yet.

It honestly surprises me how many people think that Life wouldn't decimated Brood War the way he has been SC2 the last few months, with his insane multitasking he would have easily overtaken Flash within a couple months or at least been on par.

Have you played BW and watched Flash playing BW? Life wouldnt take a game of Flash in 1 year of training. BW -> SC2 is much, much easier than SC2 -> BW.


And how much BW do you think Life has played? Absolutely zero. To say he wouldn't be a prodigy is way beyond your understanding.

He simply became the best SC2 player in the world during his first month out of school. In a year of straight training there is a very good chance he'd topple Flash in BW with ease. No one is even close to on par with his multitasking atm.


That's a hell of a statement to make. Some of the BW guys have absolutely insane multitasking, and to claim that no one is CLOSE to on par with life is a little ridicuous.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 23 2013 06:37 GMT
#1470
Judging from the voting all the games were terrible. haha. 2 base all ins? Cheese? WoL PvZ snoozefests? Which was it? :p
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
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