• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:53
CET 03:53
KST 11:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy5ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool25Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win32026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Serral: 24’ EWC form was hurt by military service Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87 [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
JaeDong's form before ASL ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea BSL Season 22
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2960 users

[Code S] RO4 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 1 2013 - Page 18

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 74 Next
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#341
On May 21 2013 18:49 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 kubiks wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 Bam Lee wrote:
man i hope symbol doesnt ruin everybodys finals by winning against innovation -_-


Ask Artosis, innovation can't lose


I think that's precisely why he's worried


innovation is so good, hes immune to that curse


Nobody is immune. The curse comes in due time. Symbol will continue his legacy and loose the first Hots final.
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#342
Alright sOs, save Our series: when behind, dark shrine :)
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#343
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


I agree

SC2 Protoss is like BW Terran. If you want to play macro, if have to figure out ALL the timings your opponents can send to you. And as HOTS is a pretty new game, it'll take some time before we see protoss shining..
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#344
On May 21 2013 18:51 czaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 rothsbury wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:46 Kim Hyuna wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 xAdra wrote:
I'd like to call mutas OP seeing as to how game ending they are, but soulkey man. He bought time to attain resources for that muta switch with his excellent roach push.

That game was over whatever soulkey did, still Muta switches are ridiculously strong mid-late game. Toss basically has to have 4-6 phoenixes ready or they're in a terrible position.


Roaches are way too cheap. 25 gas? What bro?! With 3 base bank muta switch EZ.

I agree, roaches should be 150/50 and cost 4 supply so that Protoss don't have to both with scouting roach attacks or making units that counter them.



The truth is, protoss always had a hard time vs roaches.
Back on topic. I hope sOs can make it and come back from this. On the other hand SoulKey looks so dominant :/

Did you already forget about soul?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 09:53:11
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#345
Innovation doesn't really amaze me as much, but his mastery of the basic concepts of matchups is great. His macro is not Bomber level, and micro is not MKP-primetime level, but he knows what to do at all times and knows how to control the game in sick ways. Strongest terran, but I don't see the "unfairness" like when Bomber just has more stuff cause fuck you, or when the micro of a terran just fuckin overcomes the stupidest odds (not because of shitty play from a Z or P)

Soulkey just reads games insanely well. Fuck, it almost blows me away.
The Bomber boy
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#346
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


you mean when MVP stomped the up-and-comers in one GSL and then Seed lucked into a Symbol chokejob to make a finals against an MC who didn't show up? that's the protoss day in the sun?
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#347
On May 21 2013 18:49 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Fyi, Soulkey is the only zerg who has ever beaten innovation in a televised zvt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=663&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z
(He is 8-0 vs Roro, Life and Leenock. With wins against Hydra, Effort and Jaedong too...)

http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=z&nats=all&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

Also the only Z to beat him in HotS


WTF, i honestly thought symbol actually had a chance. There is officially no way symbol is taking that series. SK vs Innovation though... that will be hype
Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#348
Protoss are running out of BUILDs.

GGWP
김현아 fighting!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#349
On May 21 2013 18:51 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:49 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:46 kubiks wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 Bam Lee wrote:
man i hope symbol doesnt ruin everybodys finals by winning against innovation -_-


Ask Artosis, innovation can't lose


I think that's precisely why he's worried


innovation is so good, hes immune to that curse

There's tempting the fates, there's double-triple-daring the fates and then there's this.

no it's literally impossible for Innovation to lose to Symbol. It was close in WoL, but now there's medivac boost, and the fungal nerf! Innovation will win 4-0!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
ValarK
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#350
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


You are right, look at all those GSLs they won! Oh wait...
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#351
On May 21 2013 18:51 virpi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

and zerg (he who must not be named, jaedong) did.


I didn't know Voldemort played Zerg
KT FlaSh FOREVER
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#352
On May 21 2013 18:52 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


I agree

SC2 Protoss is like BW Terran. If you want to play macro, if have to figure out ALL the timings your opponents can send to you. And as HOTS is a pretty new game, it'll take some time before we see protoss shining..

Except other than MC Protoss didnt dominate anything and Terran was the most successful in BW.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#353
On May 21 2013 18:53 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:51 rothsbury wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:49 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:46 kubiks wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 Bam Lee wrote:
man i hope symbol doesnt ruin everybodys finals by winning against innovation -_-


Ask Artosis, innovation can't lose


I think that's precisely why he's worried


innovation is so good, hes immune to that curse

There's tempting the fates, there's double-triple-daring the fates and then there's this.

no it's literally impossible for Innovation to lose to Symbol. It was close in WoL, but now there's medivac boost, and the fungal nerf! Innovation will win 4-0!

Stop it. Jesus.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#354
that was a Sad Zealot sign, tastosis!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#355
On May 21 2013 18:54 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:51 virpi wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

and zerg (he who must not be named, jaedong) did.


I didn't know Voldemort played Zerg

They are basically the same TT
The Bomber boy
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#356
Gateway expand is probably the better choice vs Soulkey to be honest.

These first 2 games haven't really been close.
Zerg for Life
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 09:56:16
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#357
On May 21 2013 18:45 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:43 Jochan wrote:
Tasteless is right, Soulkey makes Zerg look OP, just like Innovation with terran


sadly there is no protoss equivalent to those two.


People are so versatile... Three weeks ago Flash & Life made terran and zerg look op, then PartinG came. sOs won this asian qualifier tournament so for a while he was the protoss hope... Mmmkay.

This is just one GSL, people. Stomping your way to the finals is good, it is. You're just drawing so many conclusions.
No will to live, no wish to die
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#358
I missed the first 2 games. Have they been one-sided or close games? Does sOs have a chance at taking this series or will this go 4-0 for Soulkey?
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
May 21 2013 09:56 GMT
#359
On May 21 2013 18:52 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


I agree

SC2 Protoss is like BW Terran. If you want to play macro, if have to figure out ALL the timings your opponents can send to you. And as HOTS is a pretty new game, it'll take some time before we see protoss shining..

ROFL

SC2 P is nothing like BW T.... at all....
Veroleg
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria76 Posts
May 21 2013 09:56 GMT
#360
On May 21 2013 18:49 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:47 Veroleg wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:17 Pandemona wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:15 Lorch wrote:
Really hoping for shy, but I think it's gonna be hard to win a bo7 with wierd builds against someone who is used to practice against your wierd stuff, on the other hand I think bogus would destroy any zerg 4-0 atm so shy hitting finals would make them soooo much better.


Pretty much agree lol.
If Bogus faces any zerg in the finals he wins, straight up.
If however he faces a P he will straight up lose xD

i dont understnad what you people mean. just 100%? you can get 1.4 times the money on him vs symbol


Well 100% as in terms of you can't see him losing. On paper, it's like Barcelona playing football or Bayern Munich. You would bet that they will not lose 100%.

wha?
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 74 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 207
NeuroSwarm 145
ProTech23
PiLiPiLi 22
StarCraft: Brood War
Sharp 157
sSak 88
Noble 67
ggaemo 37
Icarus 3
Dota 2
canceldota152
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 635
Counter-Strike
taco 834
Other Games
ViBE145
C9.Mang0139
Livibee115
Trikslyr58
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick867
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream135
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta21
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 24
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift3824
Other Games
• Scarra1103
• imaqtpie818
• Shiphtur156
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
7m
HKG_Chickenman2
RSL Revival
7h 7m
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
12h 7m
BSL
17h 7m
RSL Revival
1d 7h
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
1d 17h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-20
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.