• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:59
CEST 11:59
KST 18:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results0Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser ASL21 General Discussion Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review ASL Tickets to Live Event Finals?
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1653 users

[Code S] RO4 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 1 2013 - Page 18

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 74 Next
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#341
On May 21 2013 18:49 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 kubiks wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 Bam Lee wrote:
man i hope symbol doesnt ruin everybodys finals by winning against innovation -_-


Ask Artosis, innovation can't lose


I think that's precisely why he's worried


innovation is so good, hes immune to that curse


Nobody is immune. The curse comes in due time. Symbol will continue his legacy and loose the first Hots final.
Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#342
Alright sOs, save Our series: when behind, dark shrine :)
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
May 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#343
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


I agree

SC2 Protoss is like BW Terran. If you want to play macro, if have to figure out ALL the timings your opponents can send to you. And as HOTS is a pretty new game, it'll take some time before we see protoss shining..
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#344
On May 21 2013 18:51 czaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 rothsbury wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:46 Kim Hyuna wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Scarecrow wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 xAdra wrote:
I'd like to call mutas OP seeing as to how game ending they are, but soulkey man. He bought time to attain resources for that muta switch with his excellent roach push.

That game was over whatever soulkey did, still Muta switches are ridiculously strong mid-late game. Toss basically has to have 4-6 phoenixes ready or they're in a terrible position.


Roaches are way too cheap. 25 gas? What bro?! With 3 base bank muta switch EZ.

I agree, roaches should be 150/50 and cost 4 supply so that Protoss don't have to both with scouting roach attacks or making units that counter them.



The truth is, protoss always had a hard time vs roaches.
Back on topic. I hope sOs can make it and come back from this. On the other hand SoulKey looks so dominant :/

Did you already forget about soul?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 09:53:11
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#345
Innovation doesn't really amaze me as much, but his mastery of the basic concepts of matchups is great. His macro is not Bomber level, and micro is not MKP-primetime level, but he knows what to do at all times and knows how to control the game in sick ways. Strongest terran, but I don't see the "unfairness" like when Bomber just has more stuff cause fuck you, or when the micro of a terran just fuckin overcomes the stupidest odds (not because of shitty play from a Z or P)

Soulkey just reads games insanely well. Fuck, it almost blows me away.
The Bomber boy
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#346
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


you mean when MVP stomped the up-and-comers in one GSL and then Seed lucked into a Symbol chokejob to make a finals against an MC who didn't show up? that's the protoss day in the sun?
warmus
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom196 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#347
On May 21 2013 18:49 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:46 Elroi wrote:
Fyi, Soulkey is the only zerg who has ever beaten innovation in a televised zvt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=hots&type=players&id=663&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z
(He is 8-0 vs Roro, Life and Leenock. With wins against Hydra, Effort and Jaedong too...)

http://aligulac.com/players/48/results/?after=&before=&race=z&nats=all&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS

Also the only Z to beat him in HotS


WTF, i honestly thought symbol actually had a chance. There is officially no way symbol is taking that series. SK vs Innovation though... that will be hype
Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#348
Protoss are running out of BUILDs.

GGWP
김현아 fighting!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17734 Posts
May 21 2013 09:53 GMT
#349
On May 21 2013 18:51 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:49 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:46 kubiks wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 Bam Lee wrote:
man i hope symbol doesnt ruin everybodys finals by winning against innovation -_-


Ask Artosis, innovation can't lose


I think that's precisely why he's worried


innovation is so good, hes immune to that curse

There's tempting the fates, there's double-triple-daring the fates and then there's this.

no it's literally impossible for Innovation to lose to Symbol. It was close in WoL, but now there's medivac boost, and the fungal nerf! Innovation will win 4-0!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
ValarK
Profile Joined April 2011
United States28 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#350
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


You are right, look at all those GSLs they won! Oh wait...
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#351
On May 21 2013 18:51 virpi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

and zerg (he who must not be named, jaedong) did.


I didn't know Voldemort played Zerg
KT FlaSh FOREVER
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#352
On May 21 2013 18:52 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


I agree

SC2 Protoss is like BW Terran. If you want to play macro, if have to figure out ALL the timings your opponents can send to you. And as HOTS is a pretty new game, it'll take some time before we see protoss shining..

Except other than MC Protoss didnt dominate anything and Terran was the most successful in BW.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
May 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#353
On May 21 2013 18:53 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:51 rothsbury wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:49 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:46 kubiks wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:45 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:43 Bam Lee wrote:
man i hope symbol doesnt ruin everybodys finals by winning against innovation -_-


Ask Artosis, innovation can't lose


I think that's precisely why he's worried


innovation is so good, hes immune to that curse

There's tempting the fates, there's double-triple-daring the fates and then there's this.

no it's literally impossible for Innovation to lose to Symbol. It was close in WoL, but now there's medivac boost, and the fungal nerf! Innovation will win 4-0!

Stop it. Jesus.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#354
that was a Sad Zealot sign, tastosis!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#355
On May 21 2013 18:54 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:51 virpi wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

and zerg (he who must not be named, jaedong) did.


I didn't know Voldemort played Zerg

They are basically the same TT
The Bomber boy
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#356
Gateway expand is probably the better choice vs Soulkey to be honest.

These first 2 games haven't really been close.
Zerg for Life
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12461 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 09:56:16
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#357
On May 21 2013 18:45 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:43 Jochan wrote:
Tasteless is right, Soulkey makes Zerg look OP, just like Innovation with terran


sadly there is no protoss equivalent to those two.


People are so versatile... Three weeks ago Flash & Life made terran and zerg look op, then PartinG came. sOs won this asian qualifier tournament so for a while he was the protoss hope... Mmmkay.

This is just one GSL, people. Stomping your way to the finals is good, it is. You're just drawing so many conclusions.
No will to live, no wish to die
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
May 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#358
I missed the first 2 games. Have they been one-sided or close games? Does sOs have a chance at taking this series or will this go 4-0 for Soulkey?
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
May 21 2013 09:56 GMT
#359
On May 21 2013 18:52 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:50 DidYuhim wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:48 ValarK wrote:
I'm just wondering, when will Toss have their day in the sun? Terran and Zerg have been winning everything given equal competition...

Do you remember early 2012? When Squirtle, PartinG, Rain and Seed shined?


I agree

SC2 Protoss is like BW Terran. If you want to play macro, if have to figure out ALL the timings your opponents can send to you. And as HOTS is a pretty new game, it'll take some time before we see protoss shining..

ROFL

SC2 P is nothing like BW T.... at all....
Veroleg
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria76 Posts
May 21 2013 09:56 GMT
#360
On May 21 2013 18:49 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 18:47 Veroleg wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:17 Pandemona wrote:
On May 21 2013 18:15 Lorch wrote:
Really hoping for shy, but I think it's gonna be hard to win a bo7 with wierd builds against someone who is used to practice against your wierd stuff, on the other hand I think bogus would destroy any zerg 4-0 atm so shy hitting finals would make them soooo much better.


Pretty much agree lol.
If Bogus faces any zerg in the finals he wins, straight up.
If however he faces a P he will straight up lose xD

i dont understnad what you people mean. just 100%? you can get 1.4 times the money on him vs symbol


Well 100% as in terms of you can't see him losing. On paper, it's like Barcelona playing football or Bayern Munich. You would bet that they will not lose 100%.

wha?
Prev 1 16 17 18 19 20 74 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 283
BRAT_OK 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7154
Sea 1954
firebathero 483
BeSt 261
Hyuk 236
Bisu 177
Light 165
Larva 142
Rush 90
Mind 75
[ Show more ]
Liquid`Ret 62
Backho 61
Sharp 52
EffOrt 52
ToSsGirL 45
Horang2 42
sSak 38
Mong 25
Pusan 24
Mini 23
Sacsri 16
Shinee 14
Bale 9
GoRush 9
NaDa 8
Terrorterran 6
Dota 2
Gorgc424
XcaliburYe20
League of Legends
JimRising 501
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2491
shoxiejesuss1540
Stewie2K890
edward137
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King188
Other Games
Happy348
DeMusliM297
crisheroes274
monkeys_forever91
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick798
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 56
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 71
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt1585
• Jankos1036
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
1m
OSC
1h 1m
Replay Cast
14h 1m
RSL Revival
1d
OSC
1d 3h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 17h
RSL Revival
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
2 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
3 days
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-13
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.