[WCS EU] RO16 Group C Premier Season 1 2013 - Page 32

On May 17 2013 02:27 Firlefanz wrote:
SaSe storming his own zealots and it actually matters. Nice, nothing more depressing than seeing this and protoss still winning the fight.

On May 17 2013 02:25 Cyro wrote:



Well, to start out: The motherboard and CPU pairing - It's a z77 board (some are ok to get) but very low end. Not an overclocking board - but the CPU is a 3570(k), which means you pay extra for it to be unlocked for overclocking, which you can't do on such a motherboard. That's not a big deal though, just slightly confusing

The GPU is big overkill even for trying to run max settings 120fps - sc2 drops below that very easily, but due to CPU limits, not really GPU. If i max the game on my 260 and look at workers, i have something around 150fps, and the 670 is something like four times as powerful. GPU is almost completely unused as you get later in the game, a high end GPU being below 20% utilization on max settings is commonplace in endgame

RAM, can't really fault, but PSU, you can totally just run a 430/450w unit like the corsair cx430 or if you want high quality, rosewill capstone 450w, i don't know of the quality of that particular PSU, but the kind of system they have under gaming load will use something like 250w

And the ssd, just not the best nor the cheapest model, 840 and 840 basic are in a weird place compared to 830, 840 pro and other brands. They spent a bit on the case too, for no real reason other than appearance - it's just if you wanted to make a system for running an endgame battle at as high FPS as possible, you would cut massively out of the GPU ($250 out) and that would pay for a strong cpu cooler and better board (like z77-ud3 or z77x-ud3h) for a guaranteed, safe overclock without pushing voltages (to get ~30-40% higher minimum fps, due to cpu), and then make slight adjustments to psu and ssd - though that's all really nitpicky. It's just not something i would build, though it's a great system and i'm sure it's hard to find any real fault with it.

On May 17 2013 02:27 trwkling wrote:
Should he have made more immortals? Don't know whether he could've broken that though..

On May 17 2013 02:27 trwkling wrote:
Should he have made more immortals? Don't know whether he could've broken that though..

On May 17 2013 02:25 Cyro wrote:



Well, to start out: The motherboard and CPU pairing - It's a z77 board (some are ok to get) but very low end. Not an overclocking board - but the CPU is a 3570(k), which means you pay extra for it to be unlocked for overclocking, which you can't do on such a motherboard. That's not a big deal though, just slightly confusing

The GPU is big overkill even for trying to run max settings 120fps - sc2 drops below that very easily, but due to CPU limits, not really GPU. If i max the game on my 260 and look at workers, i have something around 150fps, and the 670 is something like four times as powerful. GPU is almost completely unused as you get later in the game, a high end GPU being below 20% utilization on max settings is commonplace in endgame

RAM, can't really fault, but PSU, you can totally just run a 430/450w unit like the corsair cx430 or if you want high quality, rosewill capstone 450w, i don't know of the quality of that particular PSU, but the kind of system they have under gaming load will use something like 250w

And the ssd, just not the best nor the cheapest model, 840 and 840 basic are in a weird place compared to 830, 840 pro and other brands. They spent a bit on the case too, for no real reason other than appearance - it's just if you wanted to make a system for running an endgame battle at as high FPS as possible, you would cut massively out of the GPU ($250 out) and that would pay for a strong cpu cooler and better board (like z77-ud3 or z77x-ud3h) for a guaranteed, safe overclock without pushing voltages (to get ~30-40% higher minimum fps, due to cpu), and then make slight adjustments to psu and ssd - though that's all really nitpicky. It's just not something i would build, though it's a great system and i'm sure it's hard to find any real fault with it.

On May 17 2013 02:27 nvs. wrote:
Offline play should be the only play that judges a players skill.

On May 17 2013 02:29 LighT. wrote:
I just realized we still have yet to see
King of WoL vs God of BW...even after all this time :<...

On May 17 2013 02:29 stuchiu wrote:
I guess I'll do the anaylsis since they won't. This build by MVP was something he used against Naniwa back during his S2 2012 GSL run. There are a lot of reasons he used this:

1) Tank play is rare and for a stylistic player like Sase, it would be harder to deal with.
2) The tanks defend from alot of early al-ins, all-ins that Sase uses fairly often.
3) Sase used this build ht into collosus. A Tank contain actually counters both as all the gas is spent on high splash units, units that can't tanor effectively kill tank since they have the contain.

On May 17 2013 02:31 Tenks wrote:
I have a feeling if I tried that build MVP did on the ladder I'd just get crushed. Feels like SaSe did the anti-build.

On May 17 2013 02:29 Blaec wrote:


The case has a sata bay in the top (I have the older one), thus allowing an ssd to be allocated to each player that can be easily swapped.

ty for explaining