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Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
May 09 2013 00:45 GMT
#1521
On May 09 2013 09:42 ThomasjServo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:40 Zealot Lord wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 ThomasjServo wrote:
ZvZ is in a regressive state atm, still not as bad as PvP in the earliest stages of WoL.


Do people really prefer these muta wars more than 4gate v 4gate battles?? At least the latter one is shorter and you can see more evident micro abilities :p

I would prefer them if only because I play Z. I love watching PvP, everything matters so much but PvP in the early days was a complete cluster fuck. At least ZvZ in early wol was over quicker than PvP XD


lol - that is very true. I kinda forgot about ZvZ in early WoL haha.
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
May 09 2013 00:45 GMT
#1522
On May 09 2013 09:43 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:42 Soda-88 wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:40 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 EpiK wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Bring those mutakillers spores...enough of this nonsense.

so we can have roach/infestor again?

ZvZ only scourge, we need them.

Why everyone keeps saying ZvZ scourge only... just make them do 10 damage to non bio and whatever damage they deem fit to bio vs zerg air.

Why not just make corruptors do splash so that they do what scourge would do?

Because corruptors are already the best anti-air in game? (disregarding mirror matchups)
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
May 09 2013 00:46 GMT
#1523
On May 09 2013 09:45 hitpoint wrote:
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On May 09 2013 09:40 Treetime wrote:
Im probably the only one but i like the current zvz meta ^^


I like it too. Not sure why it needs to be changed.

I like it when it involves attacking with mutas to pull enemy out of position for large ling runbys. I don't like it when it is just sit in your base doing nothing then one fight in mid like that previous game was.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
May 09 2013 00:46 GMT
#1524
On May 09 2013 09:45 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:42 BakedButters wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 EpiK wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Bring those mutakillers spores...enough of this nonsense.

so we can have roach/infestor again?


I think Hots will make it more dynamic because you can go roach/hydra, or someone can go with ultras/infestor. Then there's broodlords as well but vipers counter that

sure we'll see a few games like that and it'll work because it catches the opponent off guard. But the standard is just going to return to roach/infestor or roach/hydra/infestor.


Yeah well, i don't know how good would do that against swarmhosts.
xNebulous
Profile Joined May 2012
United States142 Posts
May 09 2013 00:46 GMT
#1525
On May 09 2013 09:44 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:43 Bagration wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:42 rasnj wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 Zurichan wrote:
I do not think that was Idra..he said, "gg."

Revival is his teammate, of the same race (so no OP complain) and mirrored idra's build, except better so Idra could hardly say it was stupid, luck or the wrong way to play. There really was no reason for idra not to gg. He may even get more attention this way because people expect him to ragequit.


Idra has BMed teammates before. See Demuslim recently

Yes, but demuslim is of a different race and plays incorrectly. Revival can't be accused of this because he is the same race as idra and played almost exactly the same way.


demuslim plays...incorrectly?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 09 2013 00:46 GMT
#1526
On May 09 2013 09:43 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:40 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 Zurichan wrote:
I do not think that was Idra..he said, "gg."


Maybe he went to the gym to blow out some steam and Machine took over for him

Does Machine still exist? I haven't seen him in anything SC2 or even EG related for like half a year at least


I saw his name in the qualifier. Went out fast, if I recall correctly.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
May 09 2013 00:47 GMT
#1527
I never understood why zerg players don't do some corruptors to go with their mutas when they see that the opponent goes mutas.
I cannot count how many games I've won thanks to corruptors owning mutas
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
May 09 2013 00:47 GMT
#1528
On May 09 2013 09:46 xNebulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:44 rasnj wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:43 Bagration wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:42 rasnj wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 Zurichan wrote:
I do not think that was Idra..he said, "gg."

Revival is his teammate, of the same race (so no OP complain) and mirrored idra's build, except better so Idra could hardly say it was stupid, luck or the wrong way to play. There really was no reason for idra not to gg. He may even get more attention this way because people expect him to ragequit.


Idra has BMed teammates before. See Demuslim recently

Yes, but demuslim is of a different race and plays incorrectly. Revival can't be accused of this because he is the same race as idra and played almost exactly the same way.


demuslim plays...incorrectly?


Everyone plays incorrectly if they don't use what Idra deems they should .
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
May 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#1529
Why don't people get Hyrdas? Hydra den builds faster and Hydras still beat mutas, right?

They can defend vs mutas while you tech into infestors or something...
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#1530
On May 09 2013 09:45 Zealot Lord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:42 ThomasjServo wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:40 Zealot Lord wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 ThomasjServo wrote:
ZvZ is in a regressive state atm, still not as bad as PvP in the earliest stages of WoL.


Do people really prefer these muta wars more than 4gate v 4gate battles?? At least the latter one is shorter and you can see more evident micro abilities :p

I would prefer them if only because I play Z. I love watching PvP, everything matters so much but PvP in the early days was a complete cluster fuck. At least ZvZ in early wol was over quicker than PvP XD


lol - that is very true. I kinda forgot about ZvZ in early WoL haha.

The Lower leagues at that time were pretty hellish. keep in mind the map pool. I still wake up in a cold sweat over Delta Quadrant.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#1531
On May 09 2013 09:47 Diks wrote:
I never understood why zerg players don't do some corruptors to go with their mutas when they see that the opponent goes mutas.
I cannot count how many games I've won thanks to corruptors owning mutas


It doesn't work.
xNebulous
Profile Joined May 2012
United States142 Posts
May 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#1532
On May 09 2013 09:48 Popkiller wrote:
Why don't people get Hyrdas? Hydra den builds faster and Hydras still beat mutas, right?

They can defend vs mutas while you tech into infestors or something...


The problem is taking the third
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
May 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#1533
On May 09 2013 09:46 xNebulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 09:44 rasnj wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:43 Bagration wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:42 rasnj wrote:
On May 09 2013 09:39 Zurichan wrote:
I do not think that was Idra..he said, "gg."

Revival is his teammate, of the same race (so no OP complain) and mirrored idra's build, except better so Idra could hardly say it was stupid, luck or the wrong way to play. There really was no reason for idra not to gg. He may even get more attention this way because people expect him to ragequit.


Idra has BMed teammates before. See Demuslim recently

Yes, but demuslim is of a different race and plays incorrectly. Revival can't be accused of this because he is the same race as idra and played almost exactly the same way.


demuslim plays...incorrectly?

In case it wasn't clear it was a parody of how idra tends to describe the playstyles of people who beat him.

I was recently linked the following article, which describes a very particular kind of player that seems to fit idra quite well:
http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
May 09 2013 00:48 GMT
#1534
On May 09 2013 09:47 Diks wrote:
I never understood why zerg players don't do some corruptors to go with their mutas when they see that the opponent goes mutas.
I cannot count how many games I've won thanks to corruptors owning mutas

Corruptors are slow and avoidable, and from what I assume, the non-Corruptor using player can then turtle into a ground-based army to counter the Mutas and Corruptors.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 09 2013 00:50 GMT
#1535
Kind of interesting that idra scouts the evo NO baneling nest and still doesn't do ling/bane pressure xD.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
May 09 2013 00:50 GMT
#1536
On May 09 2013 09:48 Popkiller wrote:
Why don't people get Hyrdas? Hydra den builds faster and Hydras still beat mutas, right?

They can defend vs mutas while you tech into infestors or something...

Ling muta almost always beats hydras. If you go hydras then you need to spend a lot of gas on banes to protect against the large amount of lings, which cuts into your hydra count. It is also pretty hard to get a 3rd on some maps with hydras vs mutas unless you get a shit ton of spores.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 09 2013 00:50 GMT
#1537
On May 09 2013 09:47 Diks wrote:
I never understood why zerg players don't do some corruptors to go with their mutas when they see that the opponent goes mutas.
I cannot count how many games I've won thanks to corruptors owning mutas


I've never lost to that.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 09 2013 00:51 GMT
#1538
Idra is about to get owned :/
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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
May 09 2013 00:51 GMT
#1539
revival is outmacroing him so hard
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 09 2013 00:52 GMT
#1540
Game 2 is on Belshir Vestige

Same builds as G1 - Hatch/gas/pool into speed/ However Revival gets carapace as Idra gets a bane nest.

Idra goes up to lair and is able to scout the evo chamber. Revival goes to lair just after.

Both players have their gases. Revival takes a faster third as Idra gets his spire. Revival takes his spire as idra takes his third.

Revival starts to pump out lings to get a cancel on the third while also running lings into the main. But idra smartly has a spine in the main and is able to hold on both fronts. Both players now getting mutas and carapace. Revival also finishing 1 attack for lings.

Revival managing to get ahead in drones again.

Muta/ling fight in the middle of the map, but with 1/1 on lings revival is able to win on the ground and his mutas also win in the air. Revival takes it.
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