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[SPL] CJ Entus vs. SK Telecom T1 R4 - Page 5

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rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
April 29 2013 10:03 GMT
#81
Yeah I remember their game on Entombed Valley, was even crazier, the terrorist is now revenged
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
April 29 2013 10:04 GMT
#82
On April 29 2013 19:01 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 18:59 Sc2zero7 wrote:
I'd love to see zergs start mass nydusing on big maps like this. Kind of like the mobility of drop ships but you can retreat to defend at same time.



Nydus play would be a great complement to roach hydra zvt... But havent seen much use of it...


wouldnt it be super easy to kill nydus with drops?
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 29 2013 10:04 GMT
#83
Fantasy is on five winning streak!

If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 29 2013 10:04 GMT
#84
Effort wtf happened to you. After your hiatus you never became the old Effort a succesor of Savior. My favorite Zerg together with GGplay ;(
Stork[gm]
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
April 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#85
fantasy played very well, effort played quite good too
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 29 2013 10:05 GMT
#86
Swarm host that's all i have to say about that game :/
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 10:06:37
April 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#87
On April 29 2013 19:04 Bam Lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 19:01 Douillos wrote:
On April 29 2013 18:59 Sc2zero7 wrote:
I'd love to see zergs start mass nydusing on big maps like this. Kind of like the mobility of drop ships but you can retreat to defend at same time.



Nydus play would be a great complement to roach hydra zvt... But havent seen much use of it...


wouldnt it be super easy to kill nydus with drops?


nydus with static defense would be the way to go IMO

Defensively of course, but offensively also (with the creep that is spread by the nydus.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 10:06:59
April 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#88
I liked what effort tried to do there. Hydra/swarm host could actually deal a lot of damage against a bio/mine army. Problem is that on a big map like this terran forces zerg to be on defensive for a while with drops, and effort's army composition is slow to respond. Also this fails hard to a tank-heavy army. Really good response by fantasy.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#89
Fantasy on point, flawless play
FrasRaeGu
Profile Joined April 2012
2 Posts
April 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#90
5 win streak for fantasy
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 29 2013 10:06 GMT
#91
Pretty amazing match, let's hope HotS will move past the ling-bling muta vs bio widow-mine into something this complex.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 29 2013 10:07 GMT
#92
On April 29 2013 19:05 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Swarm host that's all i have to say about that game :/

they were pretty good against mines, he didnt commit full on them ,only 6 7

yo
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
April 29 2013 10:07 GMT
#93
Ah and BTW CJ generally looks quite wimpy in SC2.

No leta, no horang2.
Stork[gm]
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 29 2013 10:08 GMT
#94
Effort played that pretty well at the early stages and even later with the Swarm Hosts. He always got a wave of Locusts out before moving the Swarm Hosts so that he always had stuff to tank damage so that Fantasy couldn't snipe them.
His army was stronger than Fantasy's at that point (Swarmhost-Hydra-Infestor > Bio-Mine-Medivac) but the weakness of that composition is drops.
He should have had more static defense and then attacked after getting enough Spores and Spines and a decent bank.
Effort could have traded really well and attacked into the production when Fantasy was still on Bio+Mines and then re-maxed with Ultralisks. But he didn't have a good defense and he never attacked so Fantasy took the opportunities to be the aggressive player.

In short: Effort lost because he missed his timing to be aggressive and because he didn't have enough static defense.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
April 29 2013 10:08 GMT
#95
Every time Effort and Fantasy meet it's madness.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
April 29 2013 10:08 GMT
#96
On April 29 2013 19:06 EpiK wrote:
I liked what effort tried to do there. Hydra/swarm host could actually deal a lot of damage against a bio/mine army. Problem is that on a big map like this terran forces zerg to be on defensive for a while with drops, and effort's army composition is slow to respond. Also this fails hard to a tank-heavy switch. Really good response by fantasy.


A lot of people talking about tanks forget about vipers... IMO the infestor tech choice wasnt that good because infestor and roach hydra are a bit redundant in their function of rolling over pure bio. he should have gone straight into vipers after SH who make tanks so useless its not even funny.
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Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
April 29 2013 10:08 GMT
#97
On April 29 2013 19:07 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 19:05 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Swarm host that's all i have to say about that game :/

they were pretty good against mines, he didnt commit full on them ,only 6 7


In the last, Effort got like 10 swarmhosts. tbh swarmhost roach hydras were good against bio mines
@taefoxy
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
April 29 2013 10:08 GMT
#98
it would've been nice to see effort switch to mutas as soon as he saw all those tanks. There was a point where fantasy had very little anti-air. His army was mostly marauder/tank and he stopped making widow mines.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 29 2013 10:11 GMT
#99
On April 29 2013 19:08 Yello wrote:
Effort played that pretty well at the early stages and even later with the Swarm Hosts. He always got a wave of Locusts out before moving the Swarm Hosts so that he always had stuff to tank damage so that Fantasy couldn't snipe them.
His army was stronger than Fantasy's at that point (Swarmhost-Hydra-Infestor > Bio-Mine-Medivac) but the weakness of that composition is drops.
He should have had more static defense and then attacked after getting enough Spores and Spines and a decent bank.
Effort could have traded really well and attacked into the production when Fantasy was still on Bio+Mines and then re-maxed with Ultralisks. But he didn't have a good defense and he never attacked so Fantasy took the opportunities to be the aggressive player.

In short: Effort lost because he missed his timing to be aggressive and because he didn't have enough static defense.

Building more static defense might cost him the attack-timing though.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 29 2013 10:11 GMT
#100
On April 29 2013 19:08 Porishan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 19:07 Killmouse wrote:
On April 29 2013 19:05 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Swarm host that's all i have to say about that game :/

they were pretty good against mines, he didnt commit full on them ,only 6 7


In the last, Effort got like 10 swarmhosts. tbh swarmhost roach hydras were good against bio mines

thats almost same to what i said? xD
yo
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