EPTI was fan of WoL PvP.
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
I was fan of WoL PvP. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
[SPL] EG-TL vs. Samsung KHAN R4 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18392625 [SPL] KT Rolster vs. Team 8 R4 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18392620 dno if i've spammed this enough already but here's tomorrow's threads haha | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 29 2013 21:31 DarkLordOlli wrote: I gotta be honest with yalls. I was fan of WoL PvP. Really? I mean, near the end of WoL, it was decent, but it was still pretty passive and majority of WoL, it was always the same stupid mirror. I didn't find 8+ Colossi even close to being fun. | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On April 29 2013 21:34 Ramiz1989 wrote: Really? I mean, near the end of WoL, it was decent, but it was still pretty passive and majority of WoL, it was always the same stupid mirror. I didn't find 8+ Colossi even close to being fun. I do think it was fun at the highest level, especially if it started out with aggression. PvP was one of the harshest and most unforgiving matchups in the game. One tiny mistake no matter where you make it would cost you the game. That and it was a super positional matchup. | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On April 29 2013 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: I do think it was fun at the highest level, especially if it started out with aggression. PvP was one of the harshest and most unforgiving matchups in the game. One tiny mistake no matter where you make it would cost you the game. That and it was a super positional matchup. Uh, I disagree, every match-up in SC2 is quite unforgiving. Baneling-Ling Aggression in ZvZ? One Baneling can change the game. PvZ, one missed Force Field can cost you the game, TvZ, one Fungal(which was instant) could cut your army in half. So, yes it was unforgiving, but one of the most? I don't feel like it was. Beside, even if it was, I just can't believe it that a lot of the time it all came to the point where who has more Colossi and who focus fire first wins.. I just hate that. Edit: Yes, it depends on the map, I agree, but most of the maps in WoL were pretty bad for PvP. If it was shorter map, it was 4-gate/blink, if it was large map, lets camp into 8+ Colossi. I must say that I love EVERY match-up in HOTS, because all of them supports early aggression. Even Protoss matches aren't as much about camping as they were in WoL. Early Mothership Core with Gate units aggressions and pokes, Phoenixes, Oracles. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
Scoring: SKT +3 FanTaSy +4 Rain +4 herO[jOin] +4 Hydra +3 s2 +4 BeSt +4 all other SKT players +1 | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On April 29 2013 21:33 opterown wrote: [WCS AM] RO32 Group F Premier Season 1 2013 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18402829 [SPL] EG-TL vs. Samsung KHAN R4 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18392625 [SPL] KT Rolster vs. Team 8 R4 - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18392620 dno if i've spammed this enough already but here's tomorrow's threads haha might be able to do 1 of them we'll see  | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 29 2013 22:04 NovemberstOrm wrote: might be able to do 1 of them we'll see tyty and thanks for today's thread too! | ||
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Olli
Austria24417 Posts
On April 29 2013 21:50 Ramiz1989 wrote: Uh, I disagree, every match-up in SC2 is quite unforgiving. Baneling-Ling Aggression in ZvZ? One Baneling can change the game. PvZ, one missed Force Field can cost you the game, TvZ, one Fungal(which was instant) could cut your army in half. So, yes it was unforgiving, but one of the most? I don't feel like it was. Beside, even if it was, I just can't believe it that a lot of the time it all came to the point where who has more Colossi and who focus fire first wins.. I just hate that. Edit: Yes, it depends on the map, I agree, but most of the maps in WoL were pretty bad for PvP. If it was shorter map, it was 4-gate/blink, if it was large map, lets camp into 8+ Colossi. I must say that I love EVERY match-up in HOTS, because all of them supports early aggression. Even Protoss matches aren't as much about camping as they were in WoL. Early Mothership Core with Gate units aggressions and pokes, Phoenixes, Oracles. I disagree again, especially with the part about maps. Larger maps favored blink players because of the rush distance that kept you even safer while containing your opponent with blink. And a 4gate never cared about rush distance. The unforgivingness of PvP began in the early game. Got a slight build order disadvantage? A good player might outright kill you. Being out of position, taking bad fights, not scouting perfectly, not using your units/tech perfectly when your opponent does... all of these things cut you hard in PvP, sometimes to the point where you just instantly lose the game. TvT for example, you might lose a whole bunch of tanks but with good drops etc, there's a chance to crawl back. In PvP what happens is you type out. Can't lose units that you still need or you're dead. HotS PvP is cool too but I don't think it's figured out yet. There's still so many build order losses and people will eventually find holes to abuse which will shape the metagame. | ||
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Denar
France1633 Posts
On April 29 2013 22:04 NovemberstOrm wrote: might be able to do 1 of them we'll see Which one would be most convenient for you ? | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
KT vs Team 8 | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
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Mortal
2943 Posts
 I picked a bummer team to start with I guess. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On April 29 2013 23:55 sparklyresidue wrote: CJ Entus definitely having a hard time with the HoTS transition. On another note, go Fantasy! Yeah, their zergs are the core of the team, and both Effort and Hydra have been sucking lately. Not sure about Effort record this round, but Hydra, also one of the top 10 players as of R3, is only like 2-5 this round. | ||
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PIJAMA
Brazil137 Posts
On April 29 2013 21:01 osmanic wrote: wow didn't know that he had that much of an impact in the PvZ matchup, thanks for pointing that out! The greatest bisu lesson: On esports, looking good is far more important than just winning games... :D | ||
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
On April 29 2013 21:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: I do think it was fun at the highest level, especially if it started out with aggression. PvP was one of the harshest and most unforgiving matchups in the game. One tiny mistake no matter where you make it would cost you the game. That and it was a super positional matchup. I really enjoyed the games with low number of colossi. At some point there were popular attacks with immortals and warp prism designed to kill the guy who rushed support bay. They didn't last long, though. | ||
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tuho12345
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
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