On April 26 2013 09:24 snakeeyez wrote: I want life or innovation to win, but I just cant really root for anyone but flash. I mean watching flash win gsl would be beyond epic and flash looks strong I think he can do it if he makes it through this group
If Flash won GSL it would probably catapult SC2 popularity in korea by a lot.
It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
On April 26 2013 09:24 snakeeyez wrote: I want life or innovation to win, but I just cant really root for anyone but flash. I mean watching flash win gsl would be beyond epic and flash looks strong I think he can do it if he makes it through this group
If Flash won GSL it would probably catapult SC2 popularity in korea by a lot.
It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
Perhaps. But let's just wait and see how things pan out.
Lets get best of 5 for group B. I like how none of them really cared being in that group because all of them know they are among the best and they all want to prove they can win that group. I honestly have no idea but I would have to say I think parting is actually the least likely to get out of that group but I could see him upsetting flash or innovation. The kespa terrans are still much less experienced in SC 2 although its hard to tell by watching them. Flash might not live up to the hype in SC 2 yet, but he has already proven everything he ever had to in BW.
On April 26 2013 09:24 snakeeyez wrote: I want life or innovation to win, but I just cant really root for anyone but flash. I mean watching flash win gsl would be beyond epic and flash looks strong I think he can do it if he makes it through this group
If Flash won GSL it would probably catapult SC2 popularity in korea by a lot.
It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
No, I can't tell that. Unless by the best you mean top 10. In that case yes, I do think he has the potential to stay around there. But I don't think he has what it takes to win a GSL yet or come close.
I can tell by your posts that you are a new starcraft fan. Flash has been known to have some of the best mechanics and gameplay in history. I can understand if you say that Flash currently isn't on par with the absolute best players in the world, but saying that he doesn't have the potential to be the best? Cmon man... just read up on his past.
Yes, they are two different games but he definitely has the passion, the drive, the hardwork, the talent, and the mechanics to be one of the best and eventually win a GSL.
why is this debate still going on. Just accept the fact that at the highest level a lot of the players can take games/series off each other. The whole "Player X is the best Terran/Protoss player in the world" title changes every week anyways
On April 26 2013 09:24 snakeeyez wrote: I want life or innovation to win, but I just cant really root for anyone but flash. I mean watching flash win gsl would be beyond epic and flash looks strong I think he can do it if he makes it through this group
If Flash won GSL it would probably catapult SC2 popularity in korea by a lot.
It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
No, I can't tell that. Unless by the best you mean top 10. In that case yes, I do think he has the potential to stay around there. But I don't think he has what it takes to win a GSL yet or come close.
I can tell by your posts that you are a new starcraft fan. Flash has been known to have some of the best mechanics and gameplay in history. I can understand if you say that Flash currently isn't on par with the absolute best players in the world, but saying that he doesn't have the potential to be the best? Cmon man... just read up on his past.
Yes, they are two different games but he definitely has the passion, the drive, the hardwork, the talent, and the mechanics to be one of the best and eventually win a GSL.
To be honest, I don't think he can win GSL also, if he's lucky, he can get into semis one or two times. This comes from a 15 years starcraft fan, watched Korean BW scene for many years.
He's a genius, but his time has passed, once your age hit 20 or even just graduate from high school, you are on your down turn as a starcraft progamer, ofc assuming the scene is very competitive, you just can't keep up with those 15 year olds.
On April 26 2013 09:26 TheRabidDeer wrote: [quote] If Flash won GSL it would probably catapult SC2 popularity in korea by a lot.
It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
No, I can't tell that. Unless by the best you mean top 10. In that case yes, I do think he has the potential to stay around there. But I don't think he has what it takes to win a GSL yet or come close.
I can tell by your posts that you are a new starcraft fan. Flash has been known to have some of the best mechanics and gameplay in history. I can understand if you say that Flash currently isn't on par with the absolute best players in the world, but saying that he doesn't have the potential to be the best? Cmon man... just read up on his past.
Yes, they are two different games but he definitely has the passion, the drive, the hardwork, the talent, and the mechanics to be one of the best and eventually win a GSL.
To be honest, I don't think he can win GSL also, if he's lucky, he can get into semis one or two times. This comes from a 15 years starcraft fan, watched Korean BW scene for many years.
He's a genius, but his time has passed, once your age hit 20 or even just graduate from high school, you are on your down turn as a starcraft progamer, ofc assuming the scene is very competitive, you just can't keep up with those 15 year olds.
what are you talking about? wasn't jangbi last BW champ?... he's like 23. What other youngster (~15) like Life at the moment can be considered better than flash?
On April 26 2013 09:34 Emzeeshady wrote: [quote] It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
No, I can't tell that. Unless by the best you mean top 10. In that case yes, I do think he has the potential to stay around there. But I don't think he has what it takes to win a GSL yet or come close.
I can tell by your posts that you are a new starcraft fan. Flash has been known to have some of the best mechanics and gameplay in history. I can understand if you say that Flash currently isn't on par with the absolute best players in the world, but saying that he doesn't have the potential to be the best? Cmon man... just read up on his past.
Yes, they are two different games but he definitely has the passion, the drive, the hardwork, the talent, and the mechanics to be one of the best and eventually win a GSL.
To be honest, I don't think he can win GSL also, if he's lucky, he can get into semis one or two times. This comes from a 15 years starcraft fan, watched Korean BW scene for many years.
He's a genius, but his time has passed, once your age hit 20 or even just graduate from high school, you are on your down turn as a starcraft progamer, ofc assuming the scene is very competitive, you just can't keep up with those 15 year olds.
what are you talking about? wasn't jangbi last BW champ?... he's like 23. What other youngster (~15) like Life at the moment can be considered better than flash?
I said assuming the scene is very competitive, like 2005 BW. For Jangbi, that's not a very competitive scene. Just like Nestea's championships.
On April 26 2013 09:26 TheRabidDeer wrote: [quote] If Flash won GSL it would probably catapult SC2 popularity in korea by a lot.
It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
No, I can't tell that. Unless by the best you mean top 10. In that case yes, I do think he has the potential to stay around there. But I don't think he has what it takes to win a GSL yet or come close.
I can tell by your posts that you are a new starcraft fan. Flash has been known to have some of the best mechanics and gameplay in history. I can understand if you say that Flash currently isn't on par with the absolute best players in the world, but saying that he doesn't have the potential to be the best? Cmon man... just read up on his past.
Yes, they are two different games but he definitely has the passion, the drive, the hardwork, the talent, and the mechanics to be one of the best and eventually win a GSL.
To be honest, I don't think he can win GSL also, if he's lucky, he can get into semis one or two times. This comes from a 15 years starcraft fan, watched Korean BW scene for many years.
He's a genius, but his time has passed, once your age hit 20 or even just graduate from high school, you are on your down turn as a starcraft progamer, ofc assuming the scene is very competitive, you just can't keep up with those 15 year olds.
Flash has said that he isn't satisfied with his play in SC2 until he's at the same level of dominance as he was at his peak in BW. With his talent for RTS, experience in esports combined that attitude towards the game, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be able to compete with 15 year olds. Physically, there's nothing that makes a 20 year old worse at this game than a 15 year old. It's not like he's just picking up gaming at this age, he's been playing since he was a kid, and the games really aren't that different from a skillset point of view.
Just the fact that he's better than most WoL veterans who have been playing since release or beta, after such a comparably short time, is testament of how great his potential is. He also has been showing constant improvement pretty much every time we've seen him. Just a few months ago, he was just "that guy that was a beast in BW, but still hasn't shown any stellar results in SC2" and now he's a top contender for the best terran in the world.
I'm a Flash fanboy, that's for sure, but I'd be hugely surprised if Flash ends his SC2 career with one or two GSL semis as his greatest achievement.
On April 26 2013 09:26 TheRabidDeer wrote: [quote] If Flash won GSL it would probably catapult SC2 popularity in korea by a lot.
It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable.
this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
No, I can't tell that. Unless by the best you mean top 10. In that case yes, I do think he has the potential to stay around there. But I don't think he has what it takes to win a GSL yet or come close.
I can tell by your posts that you are a new starcraft fan. Flash has been known to have some of the best mechanics and gameplay in history. I can understand if you say that Flash currently isn't on par with the absolute best players in the world, but saying that he doesn't have the potential to be the best? Cmon man... just read up on his past.
Yes, they are two different games but he definitely has the passion, the drive, the hardwork, the talent, and the mechanics to be one of the best and eventually win a GSL.
To be honest, I don't think he can win GSL also, if he's lucky, he can get into semis one or two times. This comes from a 15 years starcraft fan, watched Korean BW scene for many years.
He's a genius, but his time has passed, once your age hit 20 or even just graduate from high school, you are on your down turn as a starcraft progamer, ofc assuming the scene is very competitive, you just can't keep up with those 15 year olds.
Lol, at least you are a 15 year starcraft fan...
If that's your opinion fair enough, but I do want to point out the rate of Flash's improvement. We would be completely mocked and scorned for even having the discussion of Flash being a GSL champion 3 months ago. Life and other progamers are all impressed with the rate that Flash is improving (Life interview a couple days ago).
I'm a HUGE flash fanboy, I admit. However, I like to point out both the pros and cons of Flash.
Flash Pros: Fastest rate of improvement, [one of the] best mechanics, best macro, dedication and hardwork.
Cons: His lack of variation and buildorder/vulnerability to allins. Pretty easy to prepare against and analyze his style of play.
I'm still very surprised that being a 15 year starcraft fan and having followed SCBW through the era of Flash, you don't think he has the POTENTIAL to win. But eh, everyone's different
Hey, everything can happen if you are a fan. Bisu will win GSL one day I believe. I think you guys predict too much. A year and a half ago, no one even knew who Life was and now he is the one of the best Zergs (top three for sure). Same for Flash, he started later than those ESL guys and now he is easily top 3 Terran. The game is changing so its hard to predict. However, I do think that when SC2 meta game becomes stable like the last 3-4 years of BW, Flash has the potential to dominate as his mechanics is second to none.
On April 26 2013 14:26 thanhbao86 wrote: Hey, everything can happen if you are a fan. Bisu will win GSL one day I believe. I think you guys predict too much. A year and a half ago, no one even knew who Life was and now he is the one of the best Zergs (top three for sure). Same for Flash, he started later than those ESL guys and now he is easily top 3 Terran. The game is changing so its hard to predict. However, I do think that when SC2 meta game becomes stable like the last 3-4 years of BW, Flash has the potential to dominate as his mechanics is second to none.
Anyone who watched ESV weeklys knew who Life was(and Taeja too ^^)
On April 26 2013 09:38 Addicted2Dreaming wrote: [quote] this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype.
How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler +
DAE FLASH HWAITING???
This.
You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is.
How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there).
Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it.
If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever.
Flash may have been the best BW player ever but this is a different game dude. Moon and Grubby were beasts at Warcraft 3 but I don't see them dominating the scene. All we can look at is SC2 stats when talking about who is the better SC2 player.
You can't compare switching from WC3 to SC2 and switching from BW to SC2. Flash has shown great play already and you can tell he's going to be one of the best, if not the best.
No, I can't tell that. Unless by the best you mean top 10. In that case yes, I do think he has the potential to stay around there. But I don't think he has what it takes to win a GSL yet or come close.
I can tell by your posts that you are a new starcraft fan. Flash has been known to have some of the best mechanics and gameplay in history. I can understand if you say that Flash currently isn't on par with the absolute best players in the world, but saying that he doesn't have the potential to be the best? Cmon man... just read up on his past.
Yes, they are two different games but he definitely has the passion, the drive, the hardwork, the talent, and the mechanics to be one of the best and eventually win a GSL.
To be honest, I don't think he can win GSL also, if he's lucky, he can get into semis one or two times. This comes from a 15 years starcraft fan, watched Korean BW scene for many years.
He's a genius, but his time has passed, once your age hit 20 or even just graduate from high school, you are on your down turn as a starcraft progamer, ofc assuming the scene is very competitive, you just can't keep up with those 15 year olds.
what are you talking about? wasn't jangbi last BW champ?... he's like 23. What other youngster (~15) like Life at the moment can be considered better than flash?
I said assuming the scene is very competitive, like 2005 BW. For Jangbi, that's not a very competitive scene. Just like Nestea's championships.
You've gotta be fucking kidding me. Not a very competitive scene? He won his first OSL, as Protoss, and beat both Flash, Fantasy and heavily zerg-favoured maps to get there. That run was just ridiculous and for someone who's followed the scene for 15 years you're freaking clueless if you think it wasn't very competitive in 2011. Even his 2012 win had ridiculous games, particularly the semi-final vs Zero. I'd honestly be surprised if Flash doesn't take a GSL at some point, his age clearly isn't an issue if you actually watch his play.
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