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Addicted2Dreaming
Canada116 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:34 Emzeeshady wrote: It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable. this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
 not my fault!! jokes aside perhaps you guys are taking these fanboys too seriously XD | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:34 Emzeeshady wrote: It wouldn't be worth how annoying and obnoxious the Flash fans on this site would get. It would be unbearable. I dont really ever have a problem with fanboys... they are pretty easy to recognize and ignore most of the time. | ||
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syroz
France249 Posts
It is going to be amazing. | ||
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Charlie.Sheen
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:38 Addicted2Dreaming wrote: this. i used to love flash, and now i find myself cheering against him owing to all the nauseating overhype. How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler + DAE FLASH HWAITING??? | ||
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tozi
United States506 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:59 synapse wrote: How did you live through 2010? This is nothing. + Show Spoiler + DAE FLASH HWAITING??? This. You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is. How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there). Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it. If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever. | ||
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MosART
United States1899 Posts
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Kihshra
178 Posts
On April 26 2013 09:30 TheRabidDeer wrote: Questionable. Yes, Gumiho beat Rain when Innovation lost, but maps and seeing what Rain did against him gives him an edge. Note that innovation went on to 2-0 rain in the end. When you argue with people and tell them Gumiho is at least as good as Innovation because of how he plays, then people tell you "you have no results to back up your opinion". And when you give them those results, people try to argue that those results mean nothing... The only thing you can argue about is Gumiho's inconsistency, which makes me say that Flash and Innovation are better overall players. But at his best, Gumiho is far better than Flash/Innovation. To be honest, I don't know who can beat Gumiho when he plays his best. And yes, that's my opinion and you can disagree with me. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On April 26 2013 10:35 Kihshra wrote: When you argue with people and tell them Gumiho is at least as good as Innovation because of how he plays, then people tell you "you have no results to back up your opinion". And when you give them those results, people try to argue that those results mean nothing... The only thing you can argue about is Gumiho's inconsistency, which makes me say that Flash and Innovation are better overall players. But at his best, Gumiho is far better than Flash/Innovation. To be honest, I don't know who can beat Gumiho when he plays his best. And yes, that's my opinion and you can disagree with me. You cant use a single BO3 against a player that they both played against in the same day but at different times with different maps and circumstances as evidence that one is better than another. Especially when Rain made several mistakes against Gumiho. Gumiho likely wouldve still won the series but maybe not. This is even further complicated by the fact that innovation went on to also 2-0 rain later on. Basically, I am saying it is too early to tell if Gumiho is ahead of innovation. Gumiho can be really really strong though, I agree. He actually used to impress me a lot more than he has lately. I actually thought he was on track to win the GSL a short while back. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6158 Posts
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Sevredol
New Zealand30 Posts
The stream is gunna die when group B plays, I'm willing to bet, highest GSL Ro16 viewership ever. The other 12 players are probably so happy, at least 2 GSL serious title contenders will be eliminated. Sad that its only BO3, can't we have BO5s please?? Will be interesting to see if Parting can live up to his trash talk and take down life. He's been struggling with Terran turbovacs a bit more recently so wonder if he will get out. How do the brackets work? Can the two players that advance from this group meet again in the finals or would they face off again in RO4?? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On April 26 2013 11:22 Sevredol wrote: WowB. The stream is gunna die when group B plays, I'm willing to bet, highest GSL Ro16 viewership ever. The other 12 players are probably so happy, at least 2 GSL serious title contenders will be eliminated. Sad that its only BO3, can't we have BO5s please?? Will be interesting to see if Parting can live up to his trash talk and take down life. He's been struggling with Terran turbovacs a bit more recently so wonder if he will get out. How do the brackets work? Can the two players that advance from this group meet again in the finals or would they face off again in RO4?? Whatever two players advance from Group B can only meet in the finals. | ||
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noD
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
He is too good to deal with WM and Hellbat drops... I think Innovation and Flash are going to make it through if they can play a WOL style vs Life | ||
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tozi
United States506 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On April 26 2013 10:13 tozi wrote: This. You guys forget how fucking awesome Flash's legacy is. How can you sit there and pretend that hype for Flash isn't a given. He's the BEST player to ever live. I can understand that Flash's fans (including myself) overhype his skills in SC2. He HAS show very good results in SC2 and his improvement is probably one of the fastest (Life admits it himself). A couple months ago, Flash was considered nowhere near Code S level and now he is part of the group of death, considered by many 2nd Terran in the world, and now places among the best in the world (NOT the best, but up there). Any blind statements that are meant seriously like, "No one can beat Flash, flash won't lose a game" or "He will own this GSL EZPZ" is definitely overhype, but lets not pretend that his legacy doesn't deserve it. If you are new in SC2 and are like, "Why the fuck is everyone talking about Flash??? The best he's got in SC2 is 2nd place in MLG... why are people comparing him to Gumiho or Bomber or MVS (in his prime). He's got a slim chance at best in this group of death." I'd say, take a look at some of the old BW threads and watch some of the old BW games. SC2 came from BW and Flash was the best BW player ever. There's already empirical evidence that legacy shouldn't actually justify any hype (as in, a rich and impressive BW legacy isn't really indicative of how someone will do in SC2). For example, Jaedong and Bisu weren't as dominant as Flash in BW overall, but they certainly are BW greats in their own right, and look at their current abilities in SC2. Jaedong looks pretty good at ZvZ and ZvT, but his ZvP has been a massive Achille's heel for him, while Bisu has been finally putting up some wins, but nothing all too impressive. Certainly not bottom-of-the-barrel, but far from top SC2 players right now. To be fair, there's still a lot of time that needs to pass to tell if they'll start living up to their BW statuses, but so far, they've both been pretty underwhelming given their BW history. And on the other side of the coin, there are players like Rain, Jaehoon, and Roro who were, from what I've heard, merely mediocre-to-good BW players (at least, TLPD seems to support this idea, given sub-50% winrates for Jaehoon and Roro, with Rain sitting right on 50%), yet in SC2 they're all performing extremely well, better than Jaedong or Bisu, being considered the aces of their respective teams (along with Rain and Roro probably being top3 players of their respective races at the moment). | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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