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On April 26 2013 16:33 Landu Landu wrote:
Innovation didn't really have a choice, there were 3 players left and the crowd was chanting Flash's name. The other 2 options were Bomber and GuMiho, and Flash said he didn't want to play Terran, so Innovation picked Flash.
Yeah pretty much. Innovation had 3 hard choices so he went for the louz.
I think pretty much everyone would have agreed that if you repalce flash with bomber or gumiho oyu would still have a group of death. But flash was more "deathish" due to bw legacy.
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On April 26 2013 14:50 opterown wrote:
I don't think we're at the point where we can accurately assess the potential of any given pro-gamer to win a GSL in the course of SC2 lol
Nah man, you dont get it. Flash is a long way from being a championship contender, unlinke Gumiho who is clearly the best terran player and the only true champion, even when he bombs out of every GSL before ro4. Dont take my word for it, other posters understand it too!
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On April 26 2013 18:19 warmus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 14:50 opterown wrote:
I don't think we're at the point where we can accurately assess the potential of any given pro-gamer to win a GSL in the course of SC2 lol Nah man, you dont get it. Flash is a long way from being a championship contender, unlinke Gumiho who is clearly the best terran player and the only true champion, even when he bombs out of every GSL before ro4. Dont take my word for it, other posters understand it too!
I hope you're not serious.
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On April 26 2013 18:52 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 18:19 warmus wrote:On April 26 2013 14:50 opterown wrote:
I don't think we're at the point where we can accurately assess the potential of any given pro-gamer to win a GSL in the course of SC2 lol Nah man, you dont get it. Flash is a long way from being a championship contender, unlinke Gumiho who is clearly the best terran player and the only true champion, even when he bombs out of every GSL before ro4. Dont take my word for it, other posters understand it too! I hope you're not serious.
Of course I am not, but a couple of gumi fanboys over the last pages were. At least u acknowledge the stupidity of my post, that was the point 
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On April 26 2013 18:57 warmus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 18:52 DidYuhim wrote:On April 26 2013 18:19 warmus wrote:On April 26 2013 14:50 opterown wrote:
I don't think we're at the point where we can accurately assess the potential of any given pro-gamer to win a GSL in the course of SC2 lol Nah man, you dont get it. Flash is a long way from being a championship contender, unlinke Gumiho who is clearly the best terran player and the only true champion, even when he bombs out of every GSL before ro4. Dont take my word for it, other posters understand it too! I hope you're not serious. Of course I am not, but a couple of gumi fanboys over the last pages were. At least u acknowledge the stupidity of my post, that was the point
Oh, sorry I find it hard at times to notice the sarcasm at times.
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Man, I love group selection shows. <3 I hope there will be ones for WCS Europe and WCS America as well!
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rofl. are those interviews real? Parting and Life sound so unprofessional.
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man, we need to turn it down a notch.
Life, Parting, Flash Innovation and some others....those dudes are on a level where "X better than Y" "Z best player in the world" just becomes completely irrelevant.
I mean everybody can take a game off of everybody at this level, there are minor fluctuations in having a good day/bad day or maps or specific circumstances or even metagame but that does not justify putting badges on the players a la "better than ..." or "best at the moment"....it's just soooooo fragile at the very top.
Of course we want to call somebody "THE BEST" as seen with Life or "MOST POTENTIAL" as seen with Flash because we are fans and we feed off of that.
but if you take a few steps you will realize that ANYTHING is possible.
These are monsters, let's enjoy the show.
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On April 26 2013 21:58 Elroi wrote:
rofl. are those interviews real? Parting and Life sound so unprofessional.
I think they are just "joking".
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So, when is the Group B match going to happen?
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On April 27 2013 00:29 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
So, when is the Group B match going to happen?
next thursday 2:10 AM korea time
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Sweet! Thanks for linking.
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On April 26 2013 18:18 kubiks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 16:33 Landu Landu wrote:
Innovation didn't really have a choice, there were 3 players left and the crowd was chanting Flash's name. The other 2 options were Bomber and GuMiho, and Flash said he didn't want to play Terran, so Innovation picked Flash. Yeah pretty much. Innovation had 3 hard choices so he went for the louz. I think pretty much everyone would have agreed that if you repalce flash with bomber or gumiho oyu would still have a group of death. But flash was more "deathish" due to bw legacy.
Now I may be a little biased but I know the majority opinion I hear on TL is that the two best terrans are Flash and Innovation. I do not see how "everyone" would agree Gumiho or Bomber is better than Flash...I would think much less of this group if either of them replaced Flash.
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It's just unfortunate that the format will probably help PartinG imo.
Lets put it this way:
PvZ: Life = PartinG -> I think both can easily take the game, maybe slight advantage for PartinG
TvZ: Life>Innovation/Flash -> Life has yet to be beaten in a ZvT and even though Bogus/Flash are awesome, I think Life would bear both of them.
PvT: PartinG<Innovation -> Mostly because I think PartinG is overall the weakest player in the group beside PvZ.
TvT: Innovation = Flash
Now... PartinG can advance without even beating a Terran once but by beating Life twice (-> Favorite Matchup prolly). Life on the other side will probably not be able to advance without beatin PartinG at least once and I don't think he'll play against two Terrans - which is HIS favorite Matchup.
I expect the group to end like that:
PartinG > Life
innovation > Flash
innovation > PartinG
Life > Flash
PartinG > Life
But i hope for
Life > PartinG
Innovation > Flash
Life > Innovation
Flash > PartinG
Innovation > Flash
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On April 26 2013 15:23 Daswollvieh wrote:
Of course Flash will dominate at some point. It´s what he does, because he´s ridiculously well-prepared and single-minded. But he is also stubborn as fuck. So while he could slowly grind his way to dominance in BW, where the game did not change for the whole time he played it, he will be fall off again and again in SC2, as long as it evolves at such a quick pace.
What the hell are you talking about? Flash literally invented modern TvP by himself.
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seriously, i hate living in U.S.
Like why is GomTV in US make people to pay to watch? Like why?
this is getting sooooooo frustrating. cant wait to go back to korea this summer -________-
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Its hard to imagine life not getting out of the group his tvz is unbeatable, but flash and innovation can do it if its possible. I think Blizzard should just patch the game based off this group result maybe just off of what happens to flash. If flash loses buff Terran
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