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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 23 2013 01:24 GMT
#41
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?

wouldn't this be the same?
Sleeping habits and rhythm extremely affects you on a higher level of play
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
April 23 2013 01:31 GMT
#42
On April 23 2013 08:25 Fionn wrote:
Revival 2 - 0 Alicia
Jaedong 2 - 1 Demuslim


Tactical results, lol
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 23 2013 01:34 GMT
#43
On April 23 2013 10:24 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?

wouldn't this be the same?
Sleeping habits and rhythm extremely affects you on a higher level of play

I think the argument is that JD seemed to perform significantly below par for him. Demuslim gets routinely clowned in tournaments by much lesser Zergs, so lag and poor time for the game might have affected JD significantly. Or maybe not.
mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
April 23 2013 01:44 GMT
#44
On April 23 2013 10:34 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:24 Rollora wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.


Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?

wouldn't this be the same?
Sleeping habits and rhythm extremely affects you on a higher level of play

I think the argument is that JD seemed to perform significantly below par for him. Demuslim gets routinely clowned in tournaments by much lesser Zergs, so lag and poor time for the game might have affected JD significantly. Or maybe not.



Jaedong has never been impressive apart from his zvz. Yeah, he beat Flash in Proleague, but was it a long straight up macro game ? It was just a baneling bust to punish Flash's greed which any pro level player is capable of doing.
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
April 23 2013 01:44 GMT
#45
of course JD was playing below par, it was probably like 10 AM for him and he should have been up for a while.
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Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
April 23 2013 01:46 GMT
#46
Well crap, they are missing a replay...
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 23 2013 01:47 GMT
#47
"we were never given that replay". hahaha nice. Just after the match.
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Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
April 23 2013 01:47 GMT
#48
Benjamin Baker โ€@DeMusliM 4m
Hmm @MLG you're showing the replays in the wrong order.

Ben, send it to them!
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
April 23 2013 01:48 GMT
#49
Christ......Demuslim gets that far and then gets cheesed in both of the games he lost. ...I feel for Ben.
Thrillhouse
Profile Joined December 2010
United States27 Posts
April 23 2013 01:49 GMT
#50
Shambles
You want excitement?! Shove THIS up your stocking!!
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 23 2013 01:53 GMT
#51
On April 23 2013 10:48 Slardar wrote:
Christ......Demuslim gets that far and then gets cheesed in both of the games he lost. ...I feel for Ben.


Well he cheesed just before vs JD, and still I think terran need to be aware of opening fast CC with widowmines as defence, they could get busted.
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redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1736 Posts
April 23 2013 01:54 GMT
#52
Is this over for today or is revival just qualified for the premier division?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 02:08:26
April 23 2013 02:08 GMT
#53
On April 23 2013 10:22 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:19 Soda-88 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:16 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:15 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:13 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:08 openbox1 wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:04 JacobShock wrote:
On April 23 2013 10:01 openbox1 wrote:
jaedong control... is terrible.


it's fine. I dunno what you're smoking. Did you see him separate that one ling to take that widow mine hit at the nat?


Saw that and it was nice. But holding position his lings next to a bunch of marines, giving up his mutas for no reason, never pulling lings against mass hellbats/rines twice or thrice at 3rd base...

I understand he was trying to do lots of things at the same time, but where's the crisp control he shows in bw? This was really disappointing.


yes, the holding position next to the marines looked really bad. I think they were probably hotkeyed to his other army, thats why they were holding position. The muta thing looked really bad, I'll agree. Maybe latency or just him being tired? I honestly dunno. I just don't think you can jump to conclusions and say his control is terrible based of one series. Jaedong is known for his mechanics after all.




Yeah, I know he has great control. I mean he's the King of BW after all. Don't know what he's doing here against DeMuslim though. Its probably just really bad bad luck but it practically looks like he's throwing the two games.

isnt he playing cross servers? maybe the lag spikes are bad for him.

Lag has hardly anything to do with his inability to attack move all banes into the crack between 2 bunkers.

If he had to play on the US server, then sure it did. Why doesnt Demuslim play at 6 am his time, into the Korean server instead?


lol, maybe because it is the qualifiers for NA???
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-23 02:22:09
April 23 2013 02:21 GMT
#54
Why is he talking Bomber vs Goswser when its America qualifiers? Is it over?
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Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
April 23 2013 03:05 GMT
#55
On April 23 2013 11:21 Mambo wrote:
Why is he talking Bomber vs Goswser when its America qualifiers? Is it over?

The qualifiers are over for the night ^^
xluik
Profile Joined September 2012
201 Posts
April 23 2013 03:20 GMT
#56
On April 23 2013 10:22 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2013 10:02 RiceAgainst wrote:
Dude, guys, Demuslim's good. One of the best, if not the best, foreigner Terran out there.

i second that.
I also don't know any other good terran (don't say something stupid like goody now) that could remotely compete with koreans. Seems the terran race isn't made for foreigners


lucifron, kas, MajOr and thorzain are all very good terrans. I wouldn't call Demuslim the best since I would put Thorzain, MajOr or lucifron above him in any matchup any day. Also fun fact, if you dig through demuslim's vods, you can see at one point major was giving him advice on TvT in WoL.
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