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Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
April 17 2013 11:41 GMT
#1121
Innovation's harras working out pretty nicely. Hyun not really responding as well as he could have.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
April 17 2013 11:41 GMT
#1122
On April 17 2013 20:40 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 20:35 opterown wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:33 letian wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:31 letian wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:28 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:22 letian wrote:
for some reason I'm not happy at all, another Shine advances


Do you play star crafts too?

well ~70% of viewers would rather see Rain advance than Gumiho, so yes Gumiho is esf Shine today

Yea when you have something that can actually substantiate that claim I might be inclined to consider it.

But you don't so.. just stop.

oh please, see the polls on page 1

bogus - 139
rain - 105
gumiho - 73
hyun - 35

hardly lopsided

does Gumiho have more votes? No.
I can safely say he is less favoured to advance, I can safely say than more ppl want Rain to advance. So in terms of upsets he may not look like full Shine, still I'd rather see more games by Bogus and Rain.


That's just, like, your opinion, man
RIP Meatloaf <3
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
April 17 2013 11:41 GMT
#1123
this is one of the few times i'm actually happy with my liquibet being wrong


gumiho is big pimpin.
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 17 2013 11:41 GMT
#1124
no roach, wtf
Terran & Potato Salad.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
April 17 2013 11:41 GMT
#1125
On April 17 2013 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 20:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Medic deaths traumatized me as a kid.

I worked extra hard to make sure they wouldn't die.


Save the people who save the people who actually do the fighting.


Save the people with medical training who are clearly not the same kind of hardened criminals that the Terrans use for their marines?

Hell yea it makes perfect sense to me.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
April 17 2013 11:41 GMT
#1126
On April 17 2013 20:36 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 20:33 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:28 Topdoller wrote:
Rain looks out of ideas and inspiration , As Protoss it looks like you need Templar tech and Colossus tech simultaneously to survive the Terran pushes which cant be done in time.

Got a feeling we will be seeing more Protoss all ins in the future

This is kind of how I feel right now, too. Not sure what the solution is, hopefully someone figures something out. I think maybe Stargate openings need some more serious looking into. Being able to catch drops better and harass more easily yourself can maybe help prevent this sort of snowballing effect that I keep seeing happen in PvT. Even if Terran just denies mining and makes Protoss run around like crazy trying to defend, they can kind of just take a quick third unopposed, and it just goes even more downhill from there -_-

Oh well, we'll figure something out.


The problem is that the pro players are trying to win, not figure the game out. What do we learn when watching? That 5gate blink stalkers is good, that you can go proxy oracles, that you can go for colossi bust at 11 minutes... Those things are great but they won't tell us how to play the game. Three days ago I saw Feast hallu some probes to tank mine shots... I had not thought of that. It's really freaking obvious, we should know to do that. But we don't, cause we see proxy stargates and blink all-ins.

The race that has the meta advantage is always the race that can develop their play the more and figure out the easiest what they have to do.

Why halu probe when you can halu a archon/immortal?
Give thanks and praise!
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 17 2013 11:41 GMT
#1127
Vote added for Gumiho

Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 17 2013 11:42 GMT
#1128
hyun has literally 0 units other than queens drones and overlords
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 17 2013 11:42 GMT
#1129
On April 17 2013 20:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 20:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Medic deaths traumatized me as a kid.

I worked extra hard to make sure they wouldn't die.


Save the people who save the people who actually do the fighting.


I guess he wanted some medical attention.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 17 2013 11:42 GMT
#1130
On April 17 2013 20:39 Yello wrote:
Losers' Match
(T)INnoVation vs (Z)HyuN
Game 1: Bel'Shir Vestige


Innovation spawns in the upper left
Hyun spawns in the lower right

0:00-4:00min
Reaper opening for Innovation
Hatch first and Pool without Gas for Hyun

4:00-8:00min
Innovation goes for CC in his natural and Factory
Hyun starts 2 Queens, loses a single Drone to the Reaoer

Hyun takes a fast third and 2 Extractors while Innovation starts a 3rd CC and reactored Hellion production
Innovation scouts Hyun's main with the Reaper and starts a run-by with 4 Hellions

Hyun pulls his Drones away and kills the Hellions with Queens but loses 10 Drones


8:00-10:00min
Innovation attacks the third with 2 Hellions and 2 Widow Mines and is able to kill 3 more Drones
Hyun builds a Spore to detect the Widow Mine but the Mine is able to get one more shot off into the mineral line

Hyun lost a total of 19 Drones

10:00-12:00min
Innovation takes the 10 o'clock as third base and starts pushing out and denying creep with Marines and 2 Medivacs
Hyun goes for Spire
1-1 upgrades finished for both players
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 17 2013 11:43 GMT
#1131
I actually like this kind of "taunting play". You expand in a very deniable location just to say "come at me bro", kind of, and force him to act overly offensively.
It works well if you planned everything for the defense and outmicro your opponent.
Goolpsy
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark301 Posts
April 17 2013 11:43 GMT
#1132
On April 17 2013 20:34 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Someone actually reported Talack. :o


Woot?! That post made me smile more than anything thats happened in Code S today :/
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1133
On April 17 2013 20:40 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 20:35 opterown wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:33 letian wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:31 letian wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:28 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:22 letian wrote:
for some reason I'm not happy at all, another Shine advances


Do you play star crafts too?

well ~70% of viewers would rather see Rain advance than Gumiho, so yes Gumiho is esf Shine today

Yea when you have something that can actually substantiate that claim I might be inclined to consider it.

But you don't so.. just stop.

oh please, see the polls on page 1

bogus - 139
rain - 105
gumiho - 73
hyun - 35

hardly lopsided

does Gumiho have more votes? No.
I can safely say he is less favoured to advance, I can safely say than more ppl want Rain to advance. So in terms of upsets he may not look like full Shine, still I'd rather see more games by Bogus and Rain.

Your ~70% is still made up crap though. Also seeing as there are 22k people watching and only 350ish people answered that poll its not exactly a good sample size.
Liquipedia
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1134
On April 17 2013 20:41 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 20:36 Nebuchad wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:33 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:28 Topdoller wrote:
Rain looks out of ideas and inspiration , As Protoss it looks like you need Templar tech and Colossus tech simultaneously to survive the Terran pushes which cant be done in time.

Got a feeling we will be seeing more Protoss all ins in the future

This is kind of how I feel right now, too. Not sure what the solution is, hopefully someone figures something out. I think maybe Stargate openings need some more serious looking into. Being able to catch drops better and harass more easily yourself can maybe help prevent this sort of snowballing effect that I keep seeing happen in PvT. Even if Terran just denies mining and makes Protoss run around like crazy trying to defend, they can kind of just take a quick third unopposed, and it just goes even more downhill from there -_-

Oh well, we'll figure something out.


The problem is that the pro players are trying to win, not figure the game out. What do we learn when watching? That 5gate blink stalkers is good, that you can go proxy oracles, that you can go for colossi bust at 11 minutes... Those things are great but they won't tell us how to play the game. Three days ago I saw Feast hallu some probes to tank mine shots... I had not thought of that. It's really freaking obvious, we should know to do that. But we don't, cause we see proxy stargates and blink all-ins.

The race that has the meta advantage is always the race that can develop their play the more and figure out the easiest what they have to do.

Why halu probe when you can halu a archon/immortal?

You hallu 4 probes at once I guess.
It's good to be back
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1135
hyun is playing terribly today, 6 queen opening with wall, there is ONE thing you must pay attention too which is to not let the hellions run in and he fucks up, just sad to see him fail so much today
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1136
On April 17 2013 20:40 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 20:35 opterown wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:33 letian wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:31 letian wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:28 Hall0wed wrote:
On April 17 2013 20:22 letian wrote:
for some reason I'm not happy at all, another Shine advances


Do you play star crafts too?

well ~70% of viewers would rather see Rain advance than Gumiho, so yes Gumiho is esf Shine today

Yea when you have something that can actually substantiate that claim I might be inclined to consider it.

But you don't so.. just stop.

oh please, see the polls on page 1

bogus - 139
rain - 105
gumiho - 73
hyun - 35

hardly lopsided

does Gumiho have more votes? No.
I can safely say he is less favoured to advance, I can safely say than more ppl want Rain to advance. So in terms of upsets he may not look like full Shine, still I'd rather see more games by Bogus and Rain.

he was the better, more entertaining player today and deserves to advance, unlike some other players who upset and look horrible while doing so
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1137
Tunneling claws???? Oh my god, call it alligator clips if you do not know the name of the upgrade...
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1138
--- Nuked ---
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1139
Damnit Gumiho. Gtfo of code S
Refer to my post.
Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
April 17 2013 11:44 GMT
#1140
Well this is just going perfectly for Innovation.
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