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On April 17 2013 19:12 kheldorin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 19:06 Rorra wrote:On April 17 2013 18:59 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:The best executed build I've ever seen. I mean, it was well done, but I don't know how anyone gets excited about a battle with 8 Force Fields and 2 Time Warps and that takes place in a choke...might as well just have the computer autocalculate that. The game was interesting because not only was rains execution perfect, but he absolutely mind gamed innovation into thinking he was playing a macro game for quite a awhile, hence why innovation was playing rather greedy. Yeah, it's only interesting if you understand the current metagame. Everyone Protoss wants to know how cope with Terran in Star Station and how to punish a greedy 3 CC out of base. So it was interesting to know what the best Protosses in the world think is the best strategies for that scenario. I feel that if Innovation wasn't so greedy, it would have been a more normal, more exciting-for-casuals game. He scouted the robo before 2nd gateway. It's a huge indicator that a collossus rush is possible.
It's a huge indicator of nothing since this is completely standard in HotS.
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On April 17 2013 19:10 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 19:10 Kasaraki wrote:On April 17 2013 19:05 Type|NarutO wrote:On April 17 2013 19:04 Derez wrote:On April 17 2013 19:02 FakeDeath wrote:
ZvT is the best match-up now.
Like always. Wait until we get another Whirlwind Flash vs Innovation :D Wasn't that Flash vs Ryung? :o Or is there a Flash vs Innovation I don't remember on Whirlwind... MLG maybe, I actually missed that series and I feel terrible about it.
Here you go, http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/100074-flash-vs-innovation-game-3-semifinals-mlg-dallas-2013
Must-watch :-) (sorry for being a bit off-topic)
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On April 17 2013 19:13 Dodgin wrote:
who said roaches
I saw Hyun talking to Shine
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On April 17 2013 19:12 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 19:10 Kasaraki wrote:On April 17 2013 19:05 Type|NarutO wrote:On April 17 2013 19:04 Derez wrote:On April 17 2013 19:02 FakeDeath wrote:
ZvT is the best match-up now.
Like always. Wait until we get another Whirlwind Flash vs Innovation :D Wasn't that Flash vs Ryung? :o Or is there a Flash vs Innovation I don't remember on Whirlwind... Last MLG, 50 Minute TvT - absolute must-watch.
Ooooh! I completely failed to watch the vods of the matches I missed during MLG. I should get that fixed! Thanks :o
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On April 17 2013 19:13 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 19:12 kheldorin wrote:On April 17 2013 19:06 Rorra wrote:On April 17 2013 18:59 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:The best executed build I've ever seen. I mean, it was well done, but I don't know how anyone gets excited about a battle with 8 Force Fields and 2 Time Warps and that takes place in a choke...might as well just have the computer autocalculate that. The game was interesting because not only was rains execution perfect, but he absolutely mind gamed innovation into thinking he was playing a macro game for quite a awhile, hence why innovation was playing rather greedy. Yeah, it's only interesting if you understand the current metagame. Everyone Protoss wants to know how cope with Terran in Star Station and how to punish a greedy 3 CC out of base. So it was interesting to know what the best Protosses in the world think is the best strategies for that scenario. I feel that if Innovation wasn't so greedy, it would have been a more normal, more exciting-for-casuals game. He scouted the robo before 2nd gateway. It's a huge indicator that a collossus rush is possible. It's a huge indicator of nothing since this is completely standard in HotS.
I think 1 gate robo is only normal if you scout gas? at least that's how I've been reacting unless I do a colossus all in.
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On April 17 2013 19:10 Shellshock1122 wrote:0:00  HyuN spawns in the top left  GuMiho spawns in the bottom right
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rax first for GuMiho
gas for GuMiho
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Hatch first for HyuN
gas for HyuN
pool for HyuN
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factory for GuMiho
reactor for GuMiho
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CC on the low ground for GuMiho
Roach warren for HyuN
reactored hellion production for GuMiho
2nd gas for GuMiho
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Starport for GuMiho
lings harassing the building scv on GuMiho's cc but hellions save it
Roach production started for HyuN
armory for GuMiho
10 roaches on the way for HyuN
hellions scout roaches coming
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United Kingdom2950 Posts
Hyun, don't be a Shine :[
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These TSL zergs and their roaches :p
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Doesn't look good, but go Gumiho!
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" oh look pvt such a bad matchup, just allins"
ZvT Hyun vs Gumiho: Roach allin...
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He can't upgrade transformation without a tech lab.
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Hellbat drop?
Let's see if Lucifron taught Hyun a thing or two.
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this is the hyun build khaldor has a guide on.
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gumiho the first korean terran who uses the best tvz build
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Germany25658 Posts
that looked surprisignly easy to defend.
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On April 17 2013 19:13 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2013 19:12 kheldorin wrote:On April 17 2013 19:06 Rorra wrote:On April 17 2013 18:59 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:The best executed build I've ever seen. I mean, it was well done, but I don't know how anyone gets excited about a battle with 8 Force Fields and 2 Time Warps and that takes place in a choke...might as well just have the computer autocalculate that. The game was interesting because not only was rains execution perfect, but he absolutely mind gamed innovation into thinking he was playing a macro game for quite a awhile, hence why innovation was playing rather greedy. Yeah, it's only interesting if you understand the current metagame. Everyone Protoss wants to know how cope with Terran in Star Station and how to punish a greedy 3 CC out of base. So it was interesting to know what the best Protosses in the world think is the best strategies for that scenario. I feel that if Innovation wasn't so greedy, it would have been a more normal, more exciting-for-casuals game. He scouted the robo before 2nd gateway. It's a huge indicator that a collossus rush is possible. It's a huge indicator of nothing since this is completely standard in HotS.
Nope. Double gas into expand into fast robo is completely not standard.
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you only want to weaken the economy.
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HyuN seems very far ahead to me. Will need some medivac magic from Gumibear to catch up!
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