[SPL] EG-TL vs. KT Rolster R4 - Page 79
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
Hot_Bid writes: I know what you're going to say. "It's a different game." I agree with you, somewhat. Look at the WarCraft 3 guys that are doing so well in the international scene, or at the Brood War careers of the guys winning the GSLs. There hasn't been a huge correlation between Brood War ability and SC2 ability among top tier SC2 pros right now. You see IM.Mvp and think he's the best Terran. But he's the only legitimate A-team pro (and a mediocre one at that) to transfer over. Nobody else has. Imagine there are hundreds of guys like him, with the same raw ability and mindset. They could be worse, or better, or exactly the same. Now imagine there are two, maybe three, that are just flat out better than Mvp at speed, precision, multitasking, and raw ability. Not just "a little better" but way better. But that's not what separates them from him. Flash and Jaedong, when motivated, have a mindset and work ethic that is unmatched by any other RTS professional. Their ability to focus and practice is not just "way better" than what Mvp is capable of, but orders of magnitudes better. Think the difference between Kobe and "average starter" on an NBA team. Maybe Leta or Sea or Best or Zero won't come into SC2 and be ultra-successful if they switch. But Jaedong and Flash? They are outliers. They do not conform to the normal rules, and everyone who has followed Brood War knows that if they switch, it's not a question of if they will dominate and win, but when. The "different game" argument applies to 99.9% of progamers, but not for special players like Jaedong and Flash. The game doesn't matter. Whether it's BW or SC2 or checkers or minesweeper, certain players are so good they will always be at the top. | ||
FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
Flash needs to stop slumping if we want to have any chance of making the playoffs though =/ | ||
Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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CygnusAres
Singapore893 Posts
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Provocateur
Sweden1665 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:20 Shantastic wrote: It's a timing attack. Like when MKP would float to the middle of Metalopolis and all-in with marines. The crazy gas/mineral income creates a really powerful 3base roach-hydra-corruptor timing. And Jaedong just decides to try and play a macro game with an all-in composition. By denying the third so many times he had plenty of time to go up to vipers, he wasn't forced to commit to ~12 additional corruptors to just have them shot down by stalkers. | ||
Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:17 shadymmj wrote: yeah jd's ZvP is horrendous. but it's ahrd to say why. maybe his strength is positioning and micro, and micro is near worthless? His positioning and micro was horrible. No spreading, basically he just went forward, got forcefielded, donated some stuff and retreated, when he should have tried to flank or JUST TRANSITION. | ||
_Galad_
Greece184 Posts
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
Particulary disappointed by Oz and aLive... | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:18 Badfatpanda wrote: Voidrays really wouldn't have been an issue if JD would have engaged worth a damn. T_______T Does full foreigner apply to team leagues? >< Hope eg/tl can come back strong next week. Doubt you could call that full foreigner. They dropped the corrupter suicide some time ago. | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:20 Shantastic wrote: It's a timing attack. Like when MKP would float to the middle of Metalopolis and all-in with marines. The crazy gas/mineral income creates a really powerful 3base roach-hydra-corruptor timing. And Jaedong just decides to try and play a macro game with an all-in composition. people on forums don't understand that. they compare unit compositions to the ultimate composition and blame lack of such ultimate composition on bad play. | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:21 Provocateur wrote: By denying the third so many times he had plenty of time to go up to vipers, he wasn't forced to commit to ~12 additional corruptors to just have them shot down by stalkers. Honestly if he just had infestors it would have been a stomp. | ||
GunPaladin
United States1205 Posts
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shadymmj
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
Yeah hating on EGTL is so last month. But yeah, sad series. Between Alive wasting a scan and 3-5 marauders and marines by misclicking his OC to Jaedong not knowing Corruptors are now useless against Protoss (unless against Tempest and Carrier).... EGTL was so close. Hope Jaedong learns that the Protoss deathball can only be stopped by using Vipers and/or Swarm Hosts. He did really great early game, everything was good. He's still lacking on knowledge of what unit comp beats which unit comp though sadly. (Colossus and Void Rays are too strong against Roaches and Hydralisks.) | ||
Timerly
Germany511 Posts
On April 15 2013 21:22 _Galad_ wrote: Meh... I bet JD thought that corruptors alone will be enough... But he underestimated the Voids... And payed for it... :/ It's like he never learned over months of Lastertoss in WoL^^ | ||
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