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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
April 15 2013 12:27 GMT
#1601
On April 15 2013 21:23 shadymmj wrote:
yeah, sad to see some kespa fans putting jd down. as much as we want ez-tl to lose, i want jd to do well. when he was in top shape he is so, so good...

Why do you want a team to lose? That's just sad.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
April 15 2013 12:27 GMT
#1602
This has nothing to do with balance or how poorly JD played, but I hate just how snowbally SC2 is... =/
T P Z sagi
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 15 2013 12:27 GMT
#1603
This really looks like Jaedong's glorious days can never come back. He played terrible, throwing units like no tomorrow. Remember in BW, he even babysit every zergling extremely careful. But now, 10 hydras, no problem, take it.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
April 15 2013 12:27 GMT
#1604
On April 15 2013 21:24 geno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:20 Shantastic wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:19 Insoleet wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:17 Prince_Stranger wrote:
After this feels like PvZ is just too good for P.


Its not

Jaedong play was just terrible

Horrible composition.


It's a timing attack. Like when MKP would float to the middle of Metalopolis and all-in with marines. The crazy gas/mineral income creates a really powerful 3base roach-hydra-corruptor timing. And Jaedong just decides to try and play a macro game with an all-in composition.

This just doesn't make sense, he could have had near the exact same timing with 2-3 vipers instead of 8 corruptors, and with what he had scouted, he should have known to do so. The gas income he had would have supported it just as well, and even if it was slightly slower, he knew he had plenty of time after delaying the third forever and scouting the army size over and over.

There was no excuse to even TRY that timing, much less commit to it.

JD could go for a doom drop on Stats' main - the guy had almost no stalkers and one colossus.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
April 15 2013 12:27 GMT
#1605
I left after seeing 3-0 assuming EG-TL had it, now im back and I guess this is not a nice sight to see :/
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
April 15 2013 12:27 GMT
#1606
wow kt, nice comeback!
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
April 15 2013 12:28 GMT
#1607
On April 15 2013 21:25 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:24 Miragee wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:19 Insoleet wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:17 Prince_Stranger wrote:
After this feels like PvZ is just too good for P.


Its not

Jaedong play was just terrible

Horrible composition.


His play was good. He outplayed stats pretty hard. If this game would have been about skill he would have won. But it isn't. It's just dumbed down to: Build the hard counter or lose. Bah game.

Stop whining to cover the fact that JD played badly.


I don't care if it was Jaedong or not because it's sc2. I still think they shouldn't have been forced to switch. -.-
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
April 15 2013 12:28 GMT
#1608

On April 15 2013 21:22 Liquid`Ret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:20 Shantastic wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:19 Insoleet wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:17 Prince_Stranger wrote:
After this feels like PvZ is just too good for P.


Its not

Jaedong play was just terrible

Horrible composition.


It's a timing attack. Like when MKP would float to the middle of Metalopolis and all-in with marines. The crazy gas/mineral income creates a really powerful 3base roach-hydra-corruptor timing. And Jaedong just decides to try and play a macro game with an all-in composition.


people on forums don't understand that. they compare unit compositions to the ultimate composition and blame lack of such ultimate composition on bad play.


Couldn't jaedong have gone for hive instead of the spire at one point? Honest question.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
April 15 2013 12:28 GMT
#1609
On April 15 2013 21:27 purakushi wrote:
This has nothing to do with balance or how poorly JD played, but I hate just how snowbally SC2 is... =/

If the game was "snowbally" then JD would've won 10 times over.
Zealgoon
Profile Joined January 2013
China187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:28:40
April 15 2013 12:28 GMT
#1610
Coach Park needs to tell Jaedong that vipers exist.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
April 15 2013 12:28 GMT
#1611
On April 15 2013 21:27 purakushi wrote:
This has nothing to do with balance or how poorly JD played, but I hate just how snowbally SC2 is... =/


Um snowbally? Jaedong was ahead the entire time and then lost.
xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
April 15 2013 12:28 GMT
#1612
A Game of Throws...
Shantastic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States435 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:29:37
April 15 2013 12:29 GMT
#1613
On April 15 2013 21:24 geno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:20 Shantastic wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:19 Insoleet wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:17 Prince_Stranger wrote:
After this feels like PvZ is just too good for P.


Its not

Jaedong play was just terrible

Horrible composition.


It's a timing attack. Like when MKP would float to the middle of Metalopolis and all-in with marines. The crazy gas/mineral income creates a really powerful 3base roach-hydra-corruptor timing. And Jaedong just decides to try and play a macro game with an all-in composition.

This just doesn't make sense, he could have had near the exact same timing with 2-3 vipers instead of 8 corruptors, and with what he had scouted, he should have known to do so. The gas income he had would have supported it just as well, and even if it was slightly slower, he knew he had plenty of time after delaying the third forever and scouting the army size over and over.

There was no excuse to even TRY that timing, much less commit to that composition.


Infestation Pit --> Hive/Spire --> Viper build time --> Viper Consume time =/= Spire --> 8 Corruptors. He had the timing to snipe the void rays and overwhelm the army, but he ran his army away, when Void Rays get far better vs Corruptors with scaling numbers.
"My grandpa could have proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, but he's also dead." -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
April 15 2013 12:29 GMT
#1614
I do want EG-TL to win, but I'm really going to blame Jaedong for losing this ace match in such a stupid way. He played excellently in that game, but obviously had a little IdrA in his head, whispering: "corrupters...my precious..."
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
April 15 2013 12:29 GMT
#1615
On April 15 2013 21:28 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:25 dmnum wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:24 Miragee wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:19 Insoleet wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:17 Prince_Stranger wrote:
After this feels like PvZ is just too good for P.


Its not

Jaedong play was just terrible

Horrible composition.


His play was good. He outplayed stats pretty hard. If this game would have been about skill he would have won. But it isn't. It's just dumbed down to: Build the hard counter or lose. Bah game.

Stop whining to cover the fact that JD played badly.


I don't care if it was Jaedong or not because it's sc2. I still think they shouldn't have been forced to switch. -.-

Too bad, they did switch. Deal with it.
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
April 15 2013 12:30 GMT
#1616
On April 15 2013 21:27 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:23 shadymmj wrote:
yeah, sad to see some kespa fans putting jd down. as much as we want ez-tl to lose, i want jd to do well. when he was in top shape he is so, so good...

Why do you want a team to lose? That's just sad.


because if eg-tl wins that means his supported team, KT, loses?

wut
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
April 15 2013 12:30 GMT
#1617
On April 15 2013 21:28 Zealgoon wrote:
Coach Park needs to tell Jaedong that vipers exist.

I actually just tweeted Zenio to teach Jaedong what a Viper is... lol
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
April 15 2013 12:30 GMT
#1618
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 12:31:05
April 15 2013 12:30 GMT
#1619
On April 15 2013 21:27 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:23 shadymmj wrote:
yeah, sad to see some kespa fans putting jd down. as much as we want ez-tl to lose, i want jd to do well. when he was in top shape he is so, so good...

Why do you want a team to lose? That's just sad.


Not to mention this is EGTL.... the sole foreigner team... that brings in the views!

EGTL doing good brings foreign views for proleague.

Also Proleague (and StarCraft II in general) isn't doing well in South Korea.

Any help they can get (even if from foreigners) really helps.

I'm glad to see stream reaching over 20k on the last game.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
April 15 2013 12:31 GMT
#1620
On April 15 2013 21:30 fluidin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 21:27 Penev wrote:
On April 15 2013 21:23 shadymmj wrote:
yeah, sad to see some kespa fans putting jd down. as much as we want ez-tl to lose, i want jd to do well. when he was in top shape he is so, so good...

Why do you want a team to lose? That's just sad.


because if eg-tl wins that means his supported team, KT, loses?

wut

You know that's not the same thing.

wut
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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