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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:02 Pretty Aluminum wrote: Holy shit please bench jaedong forever. I fucking hate how bad he is now I know it's a tough feeling just seeing him lose, but he pulled off 2 wins against the top ranked WJS last week. Players have good games and good days, and bad games and bad days | ||
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:02 Arceus wrote: it's called calculated risk. Jaehoon barely scouted it. Imagine if the phoenix took a different route, or Jaehoon didnt go stargate at all, or the gold was taken even earlier, Jaedong woulda gained tremendous resources and rolled over protoss Then his calculation is pretty off. There is no way that jaehoon would not have scouted that. It's crossmap and stargate openers are common. Plus, if jaedong was planning a timing attack with the high resource yield of that third, the window of opportunity is very small. Miss that window, and his third is gone and he'd probably lose the game. | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
I guess Argo just retained to much of his army all the time, never lost a big chunk at any point of the game. PS. Am I the only one that for some retarded reason get cartoon network commercial over and over again while watching SPL? If there wasnt a mute function I think I would have to close down the stream. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:04 HotGlueGun wrote: T_T ALBM looked strong in code A qualifiers vs P, I think he will win. Not looking good for EG-TL. true. he did beat herO and Brown which is probably more impressive than beating JYP atm | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:03 Clawfinger wrote: Yeah I feel like 2 base openings still don't work against Protoss (unless they go one base for some reason) simply because of the forcefield and lack of cost efficient units for Zerg in the early game. I've been analyzing a lot of replays recently and even the games where it looks like the Zerg absolutely annihilates the Protoss, the units lost tab (when looking at resources) is very similar between Zerg and Protoss. This is why you have to be a healthy base ahead of a Protoss at all times or you just can't take a fight until you have Mutas all over the place or a late game army. The only good 2 base ZvP build is double evo into infestor ling. The rest is just funny all-ins. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:06 4ZakeN87 wrote: Not entirely sure what went wrong in that game for JD. I mean he took damage from Phoenixes but did he really take that much damage? It looked to be twice as many stalkers as hydras from the 10 minute point and forward. I guess Argo just retained to much of his army all the time, never lost a big chunk at any point of the game. PS. Am I the only one that for some retarded reason get cartoon network commercial over and over again while watching SPL? If there wasnt a mute function I think I would have to close down the stream. I think Argo was able to get so many stalkers because he never went for a 3rd, nor AOE tech | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:06 4ZakeN87 wrote: Not entirely sure what went wrong in that game for JD. I mean he took damage from Phoenixes but did he really take that much damage? It looked to be twice as many stalkers as hydras from the 10 minute point and forward. I guess Argo just retained to much of his army all the time, never lost a big chunk at any point of the game. His strategy just didn't really do wonders for him. | ||
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:06 EpiK wrote: Then his calculation is pretty off. There is no way that jaehoon would not have scouted that. It's crossmap and stargate openers are common. Plus, if jaedong was planning a timing attack with the high resource yield of that third, the window of opportunity is very small. Miss that window, and his third is gone and he'd probably lose the game. Again, it seems to me like he had a build planned just banking on the toss going FFE, which would delay any push/scouting enough that he could have the middle established. I don't really find it far fetched that with speed he could deny scouting for a good while. Still find it a bit of a silly risk to take, esp. when he scouted the gateway expand. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:09 yokohama wrote: Just tuned in and down 0-2, this doesn't look good :[ I think Alive and Oz can possibly win, but I don't know if JYP and Zenio can keep EGTL in it :[ I disagree, I think Oz has a much worse chance of victory than JYP, but I think they need both to win, which is quite the uphill battle. | ||
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Mellon
Sweden917 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:06 4ZakeN87 wrote: Not entirely sure what went wrong in that game for JD. I mean he took damage from Phoenixes but did he really take that much damage? It looked to be twice as many stalkers as hydras from the 10 minute point and forward. I guess Argo just retained to much of his army all the time, never lost a big chunk at any point of the game. PS. Am I the only one that for some retarded reason get cartoon network commercial over and over again while watching SPL? If there wasnt a mute function I think I would have to close down the stream. He took huge damage from the phoenixes, around 20 drones + queens and loads of reinforcements aswell, that's the reason he lost. It was a huge risk with a small reward aswell. Like someone said, the timing window to benefit from increased mineral income is really small. I guess he thought he had no chance in straight up so he tried this. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11064 Posts
Then again he took silly damage form the phoenix. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:07 Emzeeshady wrote: Well he is just really fucking bad vs Protoss. He is a beast vs Zerg and we have no clue about his ZvT right now because he hasn't gotten one yet (we can assume it is not great). Overall he seems like a weak player, its too bad Stephano had to go  .Players who have a strong skill base but lack refinement are the worst players to bench. I mean, look at Rain. Back in Brood War a ton of people were calling for him to stop playing after he had a really long loss streak because he didn't know how to end a game. He's one of the best players around now. | ||
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DeathProfessor
United States1052 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On April 14 2013 13:05 Darpa wrote: In what world do you not scout the center path to a base on the opposite side of the map. I doubt pros would just right click the pnix into his opponent's base, but rather set some rally points. Jeahoon would probably be like, in what world do you take that center gold, and rallying his unit to check other locations. JD knows that mentality and exploits on that. Risky, I know. And it doesnt pay off | ||
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oniman999
United States169 Posts
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