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Congrats to Feast and Bunny on their WCS spots today.
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Well korea is more into lol these days and europe has a huge audience for sc2 so i think its only fair if that money that foreign viewers generate through ad revenue goes back to developing the european scene instead of the korean scene just taking over
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On April 16 2013 08:08 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:00 Kasaraki wrote:It's hilarious to me how happy people are with a person beating 1 Korean with terrible ping. Slim pickings?  Could people just shut up about horrible ping? First of all finale chose to play on EU because he wanted to get some easy gold, this is not something that was forced upon him. Secondly, you don't actually know if he had a horrible ping. I can play on KR perfectly fine even though i play from EU.
same here, can play kr without horrible lag
also its more the TIME then teh PING i think playing trough night is perhaps a bit harder then normal
and in the end seems this danish guy is extremly strong last time ? dont see finale as a top korean so why he shouldnt lose to a player which plays his best mu ...
people always defend koreans "ohhh only lose because of "lag/time/rush/fillwhatyoulike" its so ... frustrating and i think its best to stop argue with such people because they just dont stop talking bs
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On April 16 2013 08:08 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:06 Dvriel wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 DJHelium wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Dvriel wrote:
LOLOLOLOL!!!
Finally my Mech strategy from the BETA is displayed from a real Pro player and even beat a Korean!!! I hope this guy keep practicing real hard and show the world TvP Mech is totally possible and viable.Now go and show there is lot of Skill in Europe. GG Bunny, you got me as fan from now! You invented hellbat+tank? Yes.I try to play tank based Mech from WoL,but was unable to make it work due to the lack of buffer like the Hellbats and the lack of good harass(BFH are OK,but you need to send 8-10 of them to do damage) in the mech TvP.Everyone was telling me its stupid and NOT viable.HTOMario and Lyyna were playing Thor/hellbat/banshee/BC mech and its pretty succesfull,but not tank based as all BW fans like.The moment the Hellbat appeared and the drops became so OP,the Mech suddenly arrose.Now its our time hehe.GG Bunny and thank you. P.D.HTOMario began using hellbat/tank short after the HotS release as well I'm sure he went through your replays and looked through your exact builds. You should tell him he has to give you a shoutout or you will sue him for patent infringement.
Ha ha ha Sooo funny!
Nothing like this.Demuslim tried this combo in the BETA when the MEdivac could carry 4 Hellbats,but you will never see him playing mech vs Protoss anymore. I am not saying they steal build or went through my replays.Sitll very nice to discover, Pro players are now using BO and units,nobody is using in any tournament arroud the world.Still nothing of this is seen in the GSL.Strelok and Beastyqt as well as Goody,play this,but its not their main strategy in TvP from WoL,except for Goody.I was trying this from WoL and the BETA and can provide replays.I can prove this.Everybody was saying this only works because you are in diamond bla,bla,bla...
I hope Bunny keep doing this strategy and show the Pros how to play Mech.Still wann see him facing Sky toss in late game and deal with the TEmpest/Void Ray/Carrier/HT combo I face in my games.Its just funny to discover Pros using the build you spent so much time working on it...
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On April 16 2013 08:16 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:13 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 16 2013 08:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:04 Awesomeness wrote:On April 16 2013 08:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
There has to be a better and fairer method than this. I'd actually prefer pure invites so long as they used a logical method for choosing invites (unlike what MLG did).
yeah fuck all the new players who want to make a name for themselves...The system isn't bad just because a player you like didn't qualify. 24 out of 32 players being invites is a lot anyway. They can make a name for themselves by working through Code B and Code A. I think personally that the last 3 years of Sc2 should count for more in establishing this new league (which will be basically all that matters in Sc2 soon) than how you played in one online qualifier. In fact it's absolutely absurd to me that it doesn't. That is ONE tournament that is insanely stacked. Korea really has needed more outlets outside of the weeklies for their B-teamers and up and coming talent. The lack of such alternatives is why Finale and his ilk are playing in EU in the first place Korea could use a Code C and D even if it were online and community casted.
Isn't the lack of a Korean community to do that part of the problem?
There are more SC2 progamers than there are money for in Korea, as far as I can tell. There are easily more pro's than in EU and US combined. That is a big part of what makes them better than the rest. The Korean scene has to readjust to a new reality of SC not being as popular as it used to in Korea.
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On April 16 2013 08:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for Incredible talent lol?
yea incredible talent
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3233721/1/IlIlIIlIIlIl/ rank 2 70++%
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2383348/1/Bunny/ rank 12 70% both his acc
made a name for himself today, get over it and dont be so mad, that kid is good
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On April 16 2013 08:15 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:05 StarVe wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? At some. There wasn't one yesterday either. But take Ggandol for example. A cinderella story to me is bigger than just winning a qualifier. If Bunny makes a deep run in WCS thats a cinderella story. Scarlett and Thorzain are good examples of cinderella stories imo.
Generally yes, depends on how big the tournament is though. And Scarlett was considered a cinderella story with less results.^^
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On April 16 2013 08:13 Jacmert wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:11 govie wrote:On April 16 2013 08:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for Incredible talent lol? Well an amateur kid just beat a professional player from Korea? What would you call it? On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for What are you talking about? He is on that danish team. Its a team not a pro team Just heard Finale named hima chobo. Meaning talented :D Gosu kinda means talented. Chobo kinda means sucky.
i know. but finale just changed the korean dictionary
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I wonder if we will see a hellbat nerf soon. The reason for this is because in EU, TvT is about hellbat fights. And we know blizzard doesn't like that. I like my hellbats, but I think they will get nerfed very soon 
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On April 16 2013 08:11 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for What are you talking about? He is on that danish team. Being on a team does not make him professional.
You guys... Hes on a team not a clan and hes playing for money. It doesnt matter if he is doing it full-time or part-time. He is a pro-gamer. Are you guys serious? Whats your definition of a pro-gamer?
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On April 16 2013 08:01 Iodem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:00 HotGlueGun wrote:
Europeans holding strong. Hopefully the American's can defend against the onslaught of koreans too! Between the EU scene being better than the NA scene and the EU scene having far fewer high-caliber Koreans competing than NA, things don't bode well for us.
the main problem is not the skill in the top, i think top americans are fine BUT they are already invited.
the BASIS the top500 in europe are way stronger then in NA and thats the problem, its not to make the "top top" scene in us better to compete with this koreans you need to make your "basis" stronger guys no one heared about like some here beat koreans you need such players
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On April 16 2013 08:17 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:08 Prog455 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:00 Kasaraki wrote:It's hilarious to me how happy people are with a person beating 1 Korean with terrible ping. Slim pickings? Could people just shut up about horrible ping? First of all finale chose to play on EU because he wanted to get some easy gold, this is not something that was forced upon him. Secondly, you don't actually know if he had a horrible ping. I can play on KR perfectly fine even though i play from EU. same here, can play kr without horrible lag also its more the TIME then teh PING i think playing trough night is perhaps a bit harder then normal and in the end seems this danish guy is extremly strong last time ? dont see finale as a top korean so why he shouldnt lose to a player which plays his best mu ... people always defend koreans "ohhh only lose because of "lag/time/rush/fillwhatyoulike" its so ... frustrating and i think its best to stop argue with such people because they just dont stop talking bs
If it's BS then why weren't these foreigners that were beating Koreans ever doing well in GSL? The fact is with perfect conditions for both sides Korea has dominated ridiculously hard. A huge amount of foreigner > Korean wins come from online events with lag and played at very bad times and events that Koreans arrive at the day of or 1 day before and have a huge time difference.
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On April 16 2013 08:19 Killmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for Incredible talent lol? yea incredible talent http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3233721/1/IlIlIIlIIlIl/ rank 2 70++% http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2383348/1/Bunny/ rank 12 70% both his acc made a name for himself today, get over it and dont be so mad, that kid is good
Happy used to have an 80% win on EU ladder. No one would call him incredibly talented.
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On April 16 2013 08:20 Bowzar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:11 Prog455 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:09 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for What are you talking about? He is on that danish team. Being on a team does not make him professional. You guys... Hes on a team not a clan and hes playing for money. It doesnt matter if he is doing it full-time or part-time. He is a pro-gamer. Are you guys serious? Whats your definition of a pro-gamer?
have you read his contract?^^
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Congrats to Feast and Bunny for beating 510 other players, including pros and koreans, Great job! 
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On April 16 2013 08:20 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:19 Killmouse wrote:On April 16 2013 08:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for Incredible talent lol? yea incredible talent http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3233721/1/IlIlIIlIIlIl/ rank 2 70++% http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2383348/1/Bunny/ rank 12 70% both his acc made a name for himself today, get over it and dont be so mad, that kid is good Happy used to have an 80% win on EU ladder. No one would call him incredibly talented.
People used to gush on and on about Happy all the time and post that marine split video every chance they got
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We can all agree that WCS EU qualifiers should be played on NA server to give Koreans more chances yes..
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On April 16 2013 08:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:12 Awesomeness wrote:On April 16 2013 08:11 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:10 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:05 Benjamin99 wrote:On April 16 2013 08:03 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 TheDougler wrote:On April 16 2013 07:54 Bowzar wrote:On April 16 2013 07:51 TheDougler wrote:
BUNNY!!!! OMG, insane Cinderella story. Lol its a qualifier. And? He went from total unknown (3rd in WCS Denmark, yay) to taking down MVPFinale. I call that a cinderella story. So a cinderella story happens every single Code A qualifier? No because they are already pro-gamers. Bunny is not. He is a just an amateur kid with apparently an incredible talent. This is how amateurs becomes professional. And its exactly how Blizzard intended WCS for Incredible talent lol? Well an amateur kid just beat a professional player from Korea? What would you call it? Starcraft 2. Random people take games off pro's all the time. This isn't tennis. There is a lot of bitterness in your posts. When you've watched Sc2 from the start you learn a bit of perspective. The game has always been extremely random/unpredictable (much to it's detriment) and you can't read anything into isolated best of 3's or the results of one online qualifier.
This isn't a good example of unpredictability though when ping and play times are such a huge influence.
But hey, its what Finale and the other Koreans chose to qualify for. They should be grateful that they even have this option.
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On April 16 2013 08:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:00 Bagi wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 16 2013 07:57 m0ck wrote:
I hope the Americans get to have a run like this from one of their players. It's a lot of fun! We are adopting Demuslim as our hope Are there actually any potential players besides Demu + Koreans in the NA qualifier? Maybe Kane could make it? Is Ostojiy playing? He might be able to. He did pretty well leading up to WCS and stuff last year for North Americans. Maybe some ladder heroes I dont know about. The NA qualifier will be lame though because it's just 1 with the top 8 advancing. Kane probably has a chance, too.
a fucking joke a top2 wcs canada top8 wcs na isnt invited in this wcs ...
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On April 16 2013 08:18 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2013 08:16 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:13 Wombat_NI wrote:On April 16 2013 08:08 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 16 2013 08:04 Awesomeness wrote:On April 16 2013 08:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
There has to be a better and fairer method than this. I'd actually prefer pure invites so long as they used a logical method for choosing invites (unlike what MLG did).
yeah fuck all the new players who want to make a name for themselves...The system isn't bad just because a player you like didn't qualify. 24 out of 32 players being invites is a lot anyway. They can make a name for themselves by working through Code B and Code A. I think personally that the last 3 years of Sc2 should count for more in establishing this new league (which will be basically all that matters in Sc2 soon) than how you played in one online qualifier. In fact it's absolutely absurd to me that it doesn't. That is ONE tournament that is insanely stacked. Korea really has needed more outlets outside of the weeklies for their B-teamers and up and coming talent. The lack of such alternatives is why Finale and his ilk are playing in EU in the first place Korea could use a Code C and D even if it were online and community casted. Isn't the lack of a Korean community to do that part of the problem? There are more SC2 progamers than there are money for in Korea, as far as I can tell. There are easily more pro's than in EU and US combined. That is a big part of what makes them better than the rest. The Korean scene has to readjust to a new reality of SC not being as popular as it used to in Korea.
Asian countries tend to have a bit of a 'you either win or you're nothing' kind of attitude, couple that with the fact that this community has an extreme case of that attitude and you can see why no one really cares about putting on tournaments for B Team Koreans.
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