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[Code S] RO32 Group A 2013 GSL Season 2 - Page 136

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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#2701
Oh noes, the dark shrine
Terran & Potato Salad.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#2702
Oh man Dark Shrine.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 13:06:29
April 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#2703
It doesn't really matter if zerg can beat that comp or similar compositions, nobody wants to watch games that go like that, it's like infestor broodlord but worse. It's not fun to play either. The more exciting way we want to see zergs deal with that is constant counterattacks/drops/nydus. But right now everyone is so concerned with having the right stuff for defense that they don't even feel like they can spare the supply needed to do effective base raids, and such attempts are risky as well as overlords and nydus are slow/easy to deny. It'd be nice if zerg overlords could move a bit faster or something, or nydus got some kind of buff.

Edit: never hit post..this was supposed to be posted right after the last turtle air toss game
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
April 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#2704
bomber is playing so fucking boring, every game the same
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
April 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#2705
Creator is using every card in his deck now. Protoss will die.
The Bomber boy
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#2706
On April 04 2013 22:02 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 22:00 Big G wrote:
On April 04 2013 21:59 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On April 04 2013 21:56 Big G wrote:
On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:
Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition:

https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ

CatZ and Artosis are right, swarm host is necessary in that kind of scenario. I saw a couple of games on Mana's stream where he simply couldn't engage against SH-corruptors-vipers-mass spores without losing at least some units every locusts wave and he eventually ran out of gas. You just can't get high templars in front of your army to feedback vipers with swarm host there.

Not that it is fun to watch, but I blame the maps (like Daybreak) for that.

If not shown in GSL or Premier tournament with Code S koreans, the strat is unproven. simple as that.

Ok better make broodlords then.


A few Brood Lords was a nice idea, but Swarm Hosts work better in that situation.. Soon, the solution will be found.

not really, swarm hosts have higher "range", enough to not get slaughtered by tempests. Making BLs was just a terrible idea.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#2707
On April 04 2013 22:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 21:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S2 2013 Code S Ro32 Group A
[image loading] (P)Creator vs [image loading] (T)Bomber
Game 1
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
Creator spawns in the bottom left
Bomber spawns in the top right

1:40
rax first for Bomber
gas for Bomber
cross position scout right away from Creator

2:00
Creator scouts the main of Bomber and sees the gas
Nexus first for Creator
gateway for Creator
reaper started for Bomber

3:00
gas for Creator
CC on the low ground for Bomber
reactor for Bomber
Cybernetics core for Creator
zealot for Creator

4:00
2nd gas for Creator
Bomber scouts Creator last sending an scv one way and his reaper the other
bunker in the natural for Bomber
stalker for Creator
reaper starts attacking probes in Creator's natural
2nd stalker for Creator

5:00
4 kills on the reaper so far
Creator kills the reaper finally
stim research started for Bomber

6:00
2 more gates for Creator
ebay for Bomber
another gas for Bomber
Factory for Bomber
Creator going up to 5 gates

7:00
missile turret at the natural ramp for Bomber
6th gate for Creator
+1 attack for Bomber
Bomber scans and sees the gateways
more bunkers started for Bomber
Starport for Bomber
twilight council and forge for Creator

8:00
Bomber going up to 4 bunkers at home
Creator sees the bunkers building
5th bunker started for Bomber
+1 armor for Creator
charge research for Creator
concussive shells for bomber
Marauder production for Bomber

9:00
Dark shrine for Creator
another rax for Bomber
3rd base for Creator
3rd CC started for Bomber
mothership core for Creator
double medivac production started for Creator

10:00
+1 armor for Bomber
combat shields for Bomber
armory for Bomber
2nd ebay for Bomber
+2 armor started for Creator
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Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 04 2013 13:06 GMT
#2708
So what fun things has he got in store for us this game? ... Watch Bomber trying to manual target some widow mines and accidentally kill his entire SCV train.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 04 2013 13:06 GMT
#2709
Perfect answer by Artosis omg :D
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
April 04 2013 13:07 GMT
#2710
Artosis very pedantic about his DT's.
Long live the King of Wings
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
April 04 2013 13:07 GMT
#2711
On April 04 2013 22:05 Big G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 22:02 Wintex wrote:
On April 04 2013 22:00 Big G wrote:
On April 04 2013 21:59 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On April 04 2013 21:56 Big G wrote:
On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:
Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition:

https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ

CatZ and Artosis are right, swarm host is necessary in that kind of scenario. I saw a couple of games on Mana's stream where he simply couldn't engage against SH-corruptors-vipers-mass spores without losing at least some units every locusts wave and he eventually ran out of gas. You just can't get high templars in front of your army to feedback vipers with swarm host there.

Not that it is fun to watch, but I blame the maps (like Daybreak) for that.

If not shown in GSL or Premier tournament with Code S koreans, the strat is unproven. simple as that.

Ok better make broodlords then.


A few Brood Lords was a nice idea, but Swarm Hosts work better in that situation.. Soon, the solution will be found.

not really, swarm hosts have higher "range", enough to not get slaughtered by tempests. Making BLs was just a terrible idea.

I meant that he went for air brood lords.. if he had gone for ground brood lords it would be better.
The Bomber boy
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 04 2013 13:08 GMT
#2712
Both playing this very well, I think.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 04 2013 13:08 GMT
#2713
Sunstroke Artosis + Moldy Tasteless <3

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 04 2013 13:08 GMT
#2714
One raven...
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
April 04 2013 13:08 GMT
#2715
On April 04 2013 22:05 Zelniq wrote:
It doesn't really matter if zerg can beat that comp or similar compositions, nobody wants to watch games that go like that, it's like infestor broodlord but worse. It's not fun to play either. The more exciting way we want to see zergs deal with that is constant counterattacks/drops/nydus. But right now everyone is so concerned with having the right stuff for defense that they don't even feel like they can spare the supply needed to do effective base raids, and such attempts are risky as well as overlords and nydus are slow/easy to deny. It'd be nice if zerg overlords could move a bit faster or something, or nydus got some kind of buff.

Edit: never hit post..this was supposed to be posted right after the last turtle air toss game

Or maybe Daybreak is a terrible map in late game.

KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
April 04 2013 13:08 GMT
#2716
Man I can't find a screenshot of apollo and david kim, someone help me !
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#2717
dts are so annoying in big maps like whirl
yo
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#2718
On April 04 2013 22:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 22:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 04 2013 21:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S2 2013 Code S Ro32 Group A
[image loading] (P)Creator vs [image loading] (T)Bomber
Game 1
Map: Whirlwind

0:00
Creator spawns in the bottom left
Bomber spawns in the top right

1:40
rax first for Bomber
gas for Bomber
cross position scout right away from Creator

2:00
Creator scouts the main of Bomber and sees the gas
Nexus first for Creator
gateway for Creator
reaper started for Bomber

3:00
gas for Creator
CC on the low ground for Bomber
reactor for Bomber
Cybernetics core for Creator
zealot for Creator

4:00
2nd gas for Creator
Bomber scouts Creator last sending an scv one way and his reaper the other
bunker in the natural for Bomber
stalker for Creator
reaper starts attacking probes in Creator's natural
2nd stalker for Creator

5:00
4 kills on the reaper so far
Creator kills the reaper finally
stim research started for Bomber

6:00
2 more gates for Creator
ebay for Bomber
another gas for Bomber
Factory for Bomber
Creator going up to 5 gates

7:00
missile turret at the natural ramp for Bomber
6th gate for Creator
+1 attack for Bomber
Bomber scans and sees the gateways
more bunkers started for Bomber
Starport for Bomber
twilight council and forge for Creator

8:00
Bomber going up to 4 bunkers at home
Creator sees the bunkers building
5th bunker started for Bomber
+1 armor for Creator
charge research for Creator
concussive shells for bomber
Marauder production for Bomber

9:00
Dark shrine for Creator
another rax for Bomber
3rd base for Creator
3rd CC started for Bomber
mothership core for Creator
double medivac production started for Creator

10:00
+1 armor for Bomber
combat shields for Bomber
armory for Bomber
2nd ebay for Bomber
+2 armor started for Creator

11:00
DT tries to walk into Bomber's natural but the missile turret detects it and it dies instantly
DT harassing the small army of Bomber moving out on the map
+2 attack started for Bomber
Templar archives finishes for Creator

12:00
storm research started for Creator
2 more gates for Creator
ghost academy for Bomber
2 more gates for Creator
Bomber lands his 3rd
Bomber kills another DT at the watchtower

13:00
ghost production started for Bomber
+2 armor started for Bomber
Bomber scouts the 3rd of Creator
+3 armor started for Creator
moebius reactor for Bomber

14:00
3 more rax for bomber
DT tries to harass at Bomber's 3rd but a missile turret makes it back off
2nd forge for Creator
Robo for Creator
+1 ship weapons started for Bomber
2 more gates for Creator
+3 attack for bomber

15:00
blink research started for Creator
Bomber pushing out on the map
Creator comes out to meet him
+1 attack started for Creator
Robotics bay for Creator
DTs harassing the army of Bomber and forcing scans
2 HTs get sniped
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#2719
Mass zealot, how about some hellbats?
LiamBrady
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore197 Posts
April 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#2720
Man, I was so hyped up for tonight and am kinda feeling let down by the style of the games. Not to say these players played bad, but it just feels underwhelming.

One thing I'm thinking is that I wasn't around for the start of WoL, so didn't see these growing pains when competitive play started for that game. I'm sure in 6 months we'll look back on tonight and just laugh.

All that being said, there's probably a bunch of new viewers tonight, so I hope that Tasteless and Artosis sign off with something like: "For all our new viewers, trust us, shit will get epic in a few weeks so just stick around if you found this boring in any way tonight". Unlikely they'll say that though, but I hope this didn't turn off any new viewers.
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