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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:20 JustPassingBy wrote: What did he do wrong in that engagement? Yes it's weird, same supply but 20 less SCVs for heroemarine & 10 supply of roaches in hero 3rd. Maybe he should not have used so much tanks in siege mode, as hydras was not really syncrhonised with ultras who just a move easy into hellbats & blind siege tanks. He threw. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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AzBozz
Germany518 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:21 FeyFey wrote: Need more Hellion runbys to win and get the counters to Vipers out. But quiet good Blinding Clouds, really precise. Yeah I thought attacking with all those hellbats was a weird choice. He could have done multiple runbys instead while securing his own 5 bases, making macro orbitals and more efficient units. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:21 _SpiRaL_ wrote: It came too late for a start, he had a huge window before that. But also he engaged somewhere which made it easy to blinding cloud his tanks out of the fight. Well, regarding blinding cloud, as long as you have several vipers, you can always suicide dive to the tank line to blind them. | ||
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mijellin
China740 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Blinding cloud should reduce the range (-50% or something), but shutting down everything to 1 is way too strong. Blinding cloud is simply an underpowered darkswarm | ||
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:23 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Blinding cloud should reduce the range (-50% or something), but shutting down everything to 1 is way too strong. Its ok. It asks mech player for micro, they need to spread their tanks. It was necessary, mech in WoL was just about having a stupid mechball. Now it's true positionnal play. You need a good position + spreaded army to be efficient with mech. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10132 Posts
Insoleet you can't ask mech players to micro, because there is very little room to micro them, the tank play is entirely based on positional play, not micro. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:26 Insoleet wrote: Its ok. It asks mech player for micro, they need to spread their tanks. It was necessary, mech in WoL was just about having a stupid mechball. Now it's true positionnal play. You need a good position + spreaded army to be efficient with mech. Agree with this. But Tanks should be 2 supply. | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
edit: ^ are you crazy? 2 Supply Siege Tanks? With no changes to them? Lol :| | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:27 Godwrath wrote: There is the funny thing, WoL killed TvP mech. HotS probably killed TvZ mech. Insoleet you can't ask mech players to micro, because there is very little room to micro them, the tank play is entirely based on positional play, not micro. You know that spreading tanks one by one is micro ? | ||
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:27 Godwrath wrote: There is the funny thing, WoL killed TvP mech. HotS probably killed TvZ mech. Insoleet you can't ask mech players to micro, because there is very little room to micro them, the tank play is entirely based on positional play, not micro. Please, stop. We havent even seem korean terrans use mech yet. Theres so much room for improvement yet to be discovered. Also, using your vikings to kill vipers before they cast their cloud is a smart move instead of just let them sitting there. | ||
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DarkenedLite
United States188 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:27 Godwrath wrote: There is the funny thing, WoL killed TvP mech. HotS probably killed TvZ mech. Insoleet you can't ask mech players to micro, because there is very little room to micro them, the tank play is entirely based on positional play, not micro. It also requires patient, systematic pushing which Heromarine didn't show in that game. You need to be aware exactly of what your enemy can throw at you and be able to react. One way might have been missile turrets or just a few vikings to deter the Vipers. There are a lot of things that HeroMarine could have done better and I think its presumptuous to say that HOTS has killed TvZ mech. I just think Terrans need to tailor their composition and troop movement to better suit the new Zerg options. | ||
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BoB_KiLLeR
Spain620 Posts
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:24 JustPassingBy wrote: Well, regarding blinding cloud, as long as you have several vipers, you can always suicide dive to the tank line to blind them. Not if you spread tanks. Blinding cloud makes it much more like a BW engagement. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On March 25 2013 01:24 Bagi wrote: Yeah I thought attacking with all those hellbats was a weird choice. He could have done multiple runbys instead while securing his own 5 bases, making macro orbitals and more efficient units. He even had the change mode upgrade and normally he also got medivacs for hellbat drops. Not sure whats up with him today. Maybe just wants to give the last uk person a chance. | ||
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_SpiRaL_
Afghanistan1636 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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