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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2013 06:33 GMT
#12681
On March 17 2013 15:32 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:30 unteqair wrote:
I'm calling a 3 Protoss, 1 Zerg Ro4.
One of these times I'm tempted to make an online bet with real money and paypal and stuff.

5 to 1 odds minimum $100 buy in with that sort of prediction lol.
bankobauss
Profile Joined December 2012
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 06:34:27
March 17 2013 06:34 GMT
#12682
On March 17 2013 15:29 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:24 Fionn wrote:
Polt did go mines in the first game, and they did well defending (killing a lot of banes), but they were pretty ineffective when actually moving out since Life just always pulled a single ling to take the hit.


first game, he brought only a few and always tried to place them up front of the army where they were easily disabled with single lings or sniped by overseers closeby.

Flash and Innovation always brought much more and always made sure to scatter a few behind so that he could retreat behind them. Sure zerg will pick off a bunch, but they're so much cheaper than tanks and build so much faster with reactored factories.

Tanks with the amount of creep a zerg can put on a map with the number of queens out on a map pretty much gets annihilated by a wave of ling bling muta.



yeah thats another way to look at it

basically reactored factories CRANK out the mines SO FAST

and the mine costs 75/25

tanks cost 150/125

realistically, a mine and a tank almost do the same thing in the midgame battle. So imagine if in WoL tanks only costed 75/25 and they could be reactored (lol) thats pretty much what the mines are and its what caused the huge terran dominance we saw yesterday for the terrans spamming mines

im not saying its OP i think swarmhosts can deal with it since a zerg going swarmhosts should even it out and create a sort of "new wol situation" where the zerg still has more economy. a smart terran going mines should pretty much force skilled swarmhost use since swarmhosts are lair broodlords to trigger the mines freely
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
March 17 2013 06:34 GMT
#12683
On March 17 2013 15:30 regizer239 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:28 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:26 Dodgin wrote:
Can you guys imagine watching IPL6 in WoL after seeing this shit if it wasn't cancelled? rofl

600+ pgs on this LR thread vs the final GSL that got like 50... yeesh.


You can't really compare the 2 since GSL final was only 1 ZvZ series

It's not so much the direct comparison, its more so how active this LR is vs all the other MLGs (hence the huge excitement) vs the last GSL LR which went by quietly (in comp. with other GSLs).
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 17 2013 06:34 GMT
#12684
On March 17 2013 15:28 bankobauss wrote:
if parting has a 30 minute strategy conversation with MC, i fully expect flash to lose 3-0. id put my money on that


It didnt help him at IEM WC Unless MC was bias to YoDa and trolled Parting.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 17 2013 06:34 GMT
#12685
On March 17 2013 15:30 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:28 LimitSEA wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:25 bittman wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:21 LimitSEA wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:20 bittman wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:19 Zebb wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: Most anticipated Ro8 match?

Flash vs PartinG (199)
 
48%

Life vs Last (79)
 
19%

MC vs Bomber (74)
 
18%

Rain vs INnoVation (62)
 
15%

414 total votes

Your vote: Most anticipated Ro8 match?

(Vote): Life vs Last
(Vote): MC vs Bomber
(Vote): Flash vs PartinG
(Vote): Rain vs INnoVation



O_O holy crap tomorrow is sick


Here are all the games I'm not looking forward to tomorrow:

As an Australian, what time do you go to sleep/wake up to watch the ENTIRE CHAMPIONSHIP SUNDAY? I need to time everything perfectly so I'm not dead for work.


I don't get a hope. I've got work tomorrow so at best I think I can catch some Ro8? Even then I've got a long working day of teaching so I'll just be missing everything =(

Ahhh unlucky.. D: MLG's are always hard to catch as an Aussie.

I know right, outside of gsl there really isn't anything I get to watch without staying up/getting up at 5 am :\ And the stuff I do get to watch is choppy as shit cause there internet connection to Australia is horrendous.

Yeah it's rather depressing. I'm a bit lucky in that I'm working night shift so I might be able to catch the whole thing, I'll just be absolutely dead at work.
Long live the King of Wings
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2013 06:34 GMT
#12686
Really hope the players get a good nights sleep and show up in perfect form tomorrow. Would be tragic for this ro8 to be lack luster due to jet lag.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
March 17 2013 06:34 GMT
#12687
On March 17 2013 15:27 mordk wrote:
Why is everyone so convinced Flash is going to beat Parting?

Parting is still probably the top 1 protoss right now, why would he lose to Flash?

because... Flash. Wtf? I don't understand the question.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
March 17 2013 06:35 GMT
#12688
On March 17 2013 15:31 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 14:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On March 17 2013 13:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
TB and Husky really miscalled that final blow about how Mvp was almost certainly going to hold easily. MC rolled Mvp with that final attack even after stim finished.


We never said anything of the sort.

Don't have my keyboard so transcribing is a lot slower than usual, Still, here's the part in question from the G4 VoD:

TotalBiscuit: "Ten seconds before stimpack becomes available, that's gonna change the entire face of this battle. If he runs right into that a good stim could obliterate this army."

Husky: "Here it is, he has it now, does MVP realize the upgrade's done? He could stim right now - This would actually be perferct! He might not even need to here, TB, his units just aren't dying!"

TotalBiscuit: "These are well positioned, man, they really really are, the zealots are having trouble, really, getting to grips with the main army. But, (I? [very unclear, seems like he changed his mind halfway through the word or my English just is bad]) MC -may- just have enough, a force field on the ramp - It's not complete - MVP is able to continue his fire. Another wave is coming in right there -"

Husky & TotalBiscuit: "GEEGEEEEEE"


Even though something like that isn't directly said, one could say it was implied. Especially in the final sentence of Husky's portion.

Do note I'm merely a neutral observer here.



oh come on. It was hard enough to tell with the forcefields. Plenty of people have called fights wrong. Tastosis included. Why quibble about such a small detail? So what if they called it wrong. It was cleared up in less than a minute once gg was called.

Besides, these two are hype casters. If you're going to call them for each error (which even analytical casters make frequently), you're going to be two unhappy Pandas.

Just sit back and enjoy. If you don't like a caster, just mute them or decrease volume.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 17 2013 06:35 GMT
#12689
On March 17 2013 15:34 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:30 regizer239 wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:28 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:26 Dodgin wrote:
Can you guys imagine watching IPL6 in WoL after seeing this shit if it wasn't cancelled? rofl

600+ pgs on this LR thread vs the final GSL that got like 50... yeesh.


You can't really compare the 2 since GSL final was only 1 ZvZ series

It's not so much the direct comparison, its more so how active this LR is vs all the other MLGs (hence the huge excitement) vs the last GSL LR which went by quietly (in comp. with other GSLs).

I actually forgot the GSL finals were on that night. I think I was watching the IEM WC? Can't remember for sure.
Long live the King of Wings
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 06:38:40
March 17 2013 06:37 GMT
#12690
About Killer vs Last: Completely one-sided. Last has been crushing but sort of silently, I'd say. I wonder if people still consider that he's a major threat? Seems to be getting a lot less attention than most other Terrans.

MC did well to beat MVP, but I wonder if he'll be able to repeat that against the other Terrans. I don't think that MVP is in his best form at the moment, and MCs builds seemed like they could be quite counterable by Terran players who are more familiar with HotS or more creative players. Bomber comes to mind if I had to think about one who might be able to handle that better.


Oh right, and Life vs Polt: It was one of the best series of the tournament, some really good matches. It's still sort of curious that I'm not seeing a whole lot of Swarm hosts even though they are supposed to be Widow Mines' natural enemy, what might be the reason for that?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
unteqair
Profile Joined November 2011
United States308 Posts
March 17 2013 06:37 GMT
#12691
On March 17 2013 15:33 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:32 figq wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:30 unteqair wrote:
I'm calling a 3 Protoss, 1 Zerg Ro4.
One of these times I'm tempted to make an online bet with real money and paypal and stuff.

5 to 1 odds minimum $100 buy in with that sort of prediction lol.

I'm feeling lucky. I'm gonna go pawn my cat.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2013 06:38 GMT
#12692
Really hope that they don't change anything with the balance, and if they do they change late game units by a minimal amount. The game is just so interesting and fun to watch atm.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
March 17 2013 06:39 GMT
#12693
Really looking forward to MC vs Bomber.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 17 2013 06:40 GMT
#12694
On March 17 2013 15:38 bo1b wrote:
Really hope that they don't change anything with the balance, and if they do they change late game units by a minimal amount. The game is just so interesting and fun to watch atm.


doubtful with how much zerg players are losing their shit after dominating for almost a year

games today and yesterday were some of the most exciting we have ever seen, and people want to change it?
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 06:42:22
March 17 2013 06:40 GMT
#12695
for those who missed it, bomber's gosu seeker missile + medivac suicide against gowser has been uploaded:
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2013 06:41 GMT
#12696
On March 17 2013 15:40 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:38 bo1b wrote:
Really hope that they don't change anything with the balance, and if they do they change late game units by a minimal amount. The game is just so interesting and fun to watch atm.


doubtful with how much zerg players are losing their shit after dominating for almost a year

games today and yesterday were some of the most exciting we have ever seen, and people want to change it?

Maybe, David Kim and co were talking about the game being almost 50/50 across the various regions.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 17 2013 06:41 GMT
#12697
On March 17 2013 15:35 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:34 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:30 regizer239 wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:28 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:26 Dodgin wrote:
Can you guys imagine watching IPL6 in WoL after seeing this shit if it wasn't cancelled? rofl

600+ pgs on this LR thread vs the final GSL that got like 50... yeesh.


You can't really compare the 2 since GSL final was only 1 ZvZ series

It's not so much the direct comparison, its more so how active this LR is vs all the other MLGs (hence the huge excitement) vs the last GSL LR which went by quietly (in comp. with other GSLs).

I actually forgot the GSL finals were on that night. I think I was watching the IEM WC? Can't remember for sure.

IEM was definitely on. So was the G-League finals in China, which had finals for SC2, WC3, LoL, and especially the big one for DotA2. I actually wasn't planning on watching GSL since it was a ZvZ, but with all those other leagues on at around the same time, I ended up watching it anyways.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
March 17 2013 06:42 GMT
#12698
On March 17 2013 15:37 Shikyo wrote:
About Killer vs Last: Completely one-sided. Last has been crushing but sort of silently, I'd say. I wonder if people still consider that he's a major threat? Seems to be getting a lot less attention than most other Terrans.


Last is definitely a contender to win this MLG, but so are everyone else in this stacked ro8
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 17 2013 06:42 GMT
#12699
On March 17 2013 15:41 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 15:40 Talack wrote:
On March 17 2013 15:38 bo1b wrote:
Really hope that they don't change anything with the balance, and if they do they change late game units by a minimal amount. The game is just so interesting and fun to watch atm.


doubtful with how much zerg players are losing their shit after dominating for almost a year

games today and yesterday were some of the most exciting we have ever seen, and people want to change it?

Maybe, David Kim and co were talking about the game being almost 50/50 across the various regions.


it was 50-50 before the queen change though
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2013 06:42 GMT
#12700
On March 17 2013 15:40 EpiK wrote:
for those who missed it, bomber's gosu seeker missile tactic against gowser has been uploaded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjEkgCBMJ0Y&feature=youtu.be

"If you aren't making out with the hottest chick in this building in the next 10 seconds a crime just happened" rofl.
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