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On March 09 2013 01:48 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:46 ROOTMajOr wrote:
lol parting just gged a game that he couldnt possible lose :D
I think the general consensus is that he was completely dead, But seeing as youre a pro - can you enlighten us a bit how he could have won that? Pros for Yoda: Bio army Medivac out Two orbitals with lots of energy Cons for Yoda: Half the Gatherer count Opponent at his low-ground (no sentries or zealots though) It just seems the Pros were more than enough to counter the cons.
it was 4 or 5 scv vs 23 probe when he gg'd
he wasnt really ahead but he wasnt dead for sure
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On March 09 2013 01:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:He was all-in, stim was done, he had no forcefields, Yoda had two OCs, stalkers are glass cannons, etc. etc.
Glass cannons are called that for 2 reasons, while stalkers only fulfill one of them 
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Parting was superdead. His army was gone, he would be behind in economy in 1 minute max, his robo would go down (minedrop incoming) and thatd be it.
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On March 09 2013 01:50 Lorning wrote:
Guys, this is the exact reason the "jump in game" feature was made. They should let them play it again (not for real) to see if Parting was really that far behind
I dont think they made the "jump in game" feature to force Parting to get mauled in a game he chose to by-pass getting mauled.
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Let's see how a top P handles the speedvacs.
Edit: lol at those discusing parting gg.
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Yes Yoda was ahead, but a comeback from Parting wouldn't have been impossible, don't understand how you could say Parting was 100% dead.
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On March 09 2013 01:50 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:49 TheDwf wrote:On March 09 2013 01:48 Azzur wrote:
Lol, I can't believe people in this thread are saying Parting is dead lost - yes, you can argue that Yoda had an advantage but to give up when you're up in supply?? You're aware players don't see the supply overlay? then don't gg if you are not absolutely sure...
Fantasy/MKP's gg timings sure allow you to win more games than IdrA's gg timing!
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The golden rule is that if you're not sure, don't gg
There should be no arguments in a thread that a player is lost or not
I don't understand how some players can lack fighting spirit
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On March 09 2013 01:50 ROOTMajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:49 Ysellian wrote:On March 09 2013 01:46 ROOTMajOr wrote:
lol parting just gged a game that he couldnt possible lose :D
curious since you are a pro I'll take your word for it, but what could Parting have done? all he had to do is to make 1 observer and keep making stalker / zealot yoda had 2 barracks literally no army and no economy at all he woulda died
You're the pro so your word obviously means more. But I really, Really don't see Parting holding a counter push. 2 orbitals with mules, stimmed bio with medivacs just seems too strong for the very few stalkers/zealots parting had left.
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On March 09 2013 01:48 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:46 ROOTMajOr wrote:
lol parting just gged a game that he couldnt possible lose :D
I think the general consensus is that he was completely dead, But seeing as youre a pro - can you enlighten us a bit how he could have won that? Pros for Yoda: Bio army Medivac out Two orbitals with lots of energy Cons for Yoda: Half the Gatherer count Opponent at his low-ground (no sentries or zealots though) It just seems the Pros were more than enough to counter the cons.
What?
This is the real situation. Parting had a bigger army supply and nearly triple the workers. Most of the SCVs were pulled into the army to help defend too!
All he has to do is keep pumping units and keep pressured. He can easily afford to trade inefficiently. He doesn't have to worry about Yoda loading up and counter attacking with a drop simply because if Yoda he'll lose his base and Parting will figured it out and warp in at home. And he doesn't know if Parting has a MSC, and if he does then he won't win a base trade.
Parting simply didn't know how many workers he had killed. Had he known Yoda was on his last legs in terms of SCV's he would have kept pushing.
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On March 09 2013 01:51 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:50 ROOTMajOr wrote:On March 09 2013 01:49 Ysellian wrote:On March 09 2013 01:46 ROOTMajOr wrote:
lol parting just gged a game that he couldnt possible lose :D
curious since you are a pro I'll take your word for it, but what could Parting have done? all he had to do is to make 1 observer and keep making stalker / zealot yoda had 2 barracks literally no army and no economy at all he woulda died You're the pro so your word obviously means more. But I really, Really don't see Parting holding a counter push. 2 orbitals with mules, stimmed bio with medivacs just seems too strong for the very few stalkers/zealots parting had left.
he didn't have that much. half of the ball above the ramp was scvs... like 5 of his ~10scvs were in the fight!
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On March 09 2013 01:50 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:49 TheDwf wrote:On March 09 2013 01:48 Azzur wrote:
Lol, I can't believe people in this thread are saying Parting is dead lost - yes, you can argue that Yoda had an advantage but to give up when you're up in supply?? You're aware players don't see the supply overlay? Players should know the relative supply by how much they've killed
Yeah, it's a known fact that all players have eidetic memory to keep track of every unit lost in the game.
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On March 09 2013 01:50 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:48 liberate71 wrote:On March 09 2013 01:46 ROOTMajOr wrote:
lol parting just gged a game that he couldnt possible lose :D
I think the general consensus is that he was completely dead, But seeing as youre a pro - can you enlighten us a bit how he could have won that? Pros for Yoda: Bio army Medivac out Two orbitals with lots of energy Cons for Yoda: Half the Gatherer count Opponent at his low-ground (no sentries or zealots though) It just seems the Pros were more than enough to counter the cons. it was 4 or 5 scv vs 23 probe when he gg'd he wasnt really ahead but he wasnt dead for sure
Thanks for the input :D
I thought he still had about 10 v 22? but yeh he probably lost a couple more at the ramp at the end.
I think if Parting warped in Zealots he would have probably even won, but unfortunately he had no oomph with his army. Half the duration of mules probably would have expired his 'timer' to win though.
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On March 09 2013 01:50 ROOTMajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:49 Ysellian wrote:On March 09 2013 01:46 ROOTMajOr wrote:
lol parting just gged a game that he couldnt possible lose :D
Since you are a pro I'll take your word for it, but what could Parting have done? all he had to do is to make 1 observer and keep making stalkers and terran woulda died im watching with jaehoon and jaehoon was really surprised when parting gg cause he said he couldnt possible lose this game
Cheers to Jaehoon, that bastard killed my fantasy pl team last round, haha.
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I wonder if they gone release Replays.
And then, if they would be watchable in the final HotS Version.
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On March 09 2013 01:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:47 TylerThaCreator wrote:
The units that parting had could have killed off that terran army, download the replay once IEM releases that shit and you'll see.. You seriously, highly OVER estimate stalkers against stimmed bio with medivacs -.-
No, I'm a GM level protoss with years of experience of these kinds of engagements. That army flat out beats out medivac regen when there's such a small number of terran bio out. You can keep picking off marines and making more stalkers and like major said add obs to aid in that picking off of marines/scvs
anyone saying "[parting]'s army was gone" has no idea what they're talking about
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That's a ton of lost mining time, great trade for YoDa.
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On March 09 2013 01:50 ROOTMajOr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:49 Ysellian wrote:On March 09 2013 01:46 ROOTMajOr wrote:
lol parting just gged a game that he couldnt possible lose :D
Since you are a pro I'll take your word for it, but what could Parting have done? all he had to do is to make 1 observer and keep making stalkers and terran woulda died im watching with jaehoon and jaehoon was really surprised when parting gg cause he said he couldnt possible lose this game
Thanks! I guess Parting will feel stupid once he looks back at that then.
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On March 09 2013 01:52 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 01:50 Azzur wrote:On March 09 2013 01:49 TheDwf wrote:On March 09 2013 01:48 Azzur wrote:
Lol, I can't believe people in this thread are saying Parting is dead lost - yes, you can argue that Yoda had an advantage but to give up when you're up in supply?? You're aware players don't see the supply overlay? Players should know the relative supply by how much they've killed Yeah, it's a known fact that all players have eidetic memory to keep track of every unit lost in the game.
Lol, I never claimed that they will know the exact supply - but a pro player should definitely roughly know
I can't believe that you can claim otherwise
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